IIRC you need to remove the dataset you intend to delete from the SMFPRMxx 
member, set that member as active T SMF=xx then you can delete and redefine, 
I've done this a couple of time, works well that way, I have 3 SMFPRMxx members 
still setup to do this. We're using log streams now but the SMF MAN datasets 
are still defined in the member for backup  

Carmen  
   
Carmen Vitullo 

   

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From: Jake <justmainfra...@gmail.com>
To: IBM-MAIN <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, 30 March 2022 12:58 AM CDT
Subject: Re: Resize SMF MAN without IPL

The only challenge I can see is that I can't resize an existing one as it 
gives me message as 'In use'. 





On Wed, Mar 30, 2022, 9:30 AM Jake Anderson <justmainfra...@gmail.com> 
wrote: 

> Thanks Mike 
> 
> So just pick the non-active one.(with zero %),. Delete them. Then Define a 
> new SMF MAN and preformat and do /T SMF=00. 
> 
> 
> Is it correct? 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2022, 8:38 AM Mike Schwab <mike.a.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
>> You can define and init a SYSn.MANx dataset and it will be picked up 
>> after updating the parmlib SMFPRMxx member. If the dataset is not in 
>> use, you can delete, define, and init an existing SYSn.MANx dataset. 
>> However, you will need to have at least 2 available datasets to allow 
>> swapping, unloading, and init the inactive dataset. 
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.3.0?topic=sets-using-define-create-smf-data
>>  
>> 
>> https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.3.0?topic=sets-switching-smf-data 
>> When the SMF data set that is currently being recording on becomes 
>> full, SMF does the following: 
>> Automatically closes the full data set, making it available for dumping. 
>> Locates the new data set to open by starting at the top of the list of 
>> data sets specified on the DSNAME parameter of the SMFPRMxx member and 
>> looking for the first completely empty data set. 
>> 
>> Of course the trend is to switch to logstreams. 
>> 
>> https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.3.0?topic=sums-switching-between-smf-logging-smf-data-set-recording
>>  
>> 
>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 5:00 AM Jake Anderson <justmainfra...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote: 
>> > 
>> > Hello 
>> > 
>> > Is it possible to resize the SMF Man dataset on fly without an IPL ? 
>> Will 
>> > there be any impact ? Or it is doable without a disruption. 
>> > 
>> > Jake 
>> > 
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