TAKE THIS OFF LIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Doug Fuerst
d...@bkassociates.net

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From: "Bill Johnson" <00000047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
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Sent: 21-Mar-22 13:04:18
Subject: Re: Trouble getting new mainframe staff?


Joe gets up at6 a.m. and fills hiscoffeepot with water to prepare his morning 
coffee. The water is clean and goodbecause some tree-hugging liberal fought for 
minimum water-quality standards.With his first swallow of coffee, he takes his 
daily medication. Hismedications are safe to take because some stupid commie 
liberal fought to ensuretheir safety and that they work as advertised.

All but $10 ofhis medications are paid for by his employer's medical plan 
because *someliberal* union workers fought their employers for paid medical 
insurance - nowJoe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and 
eggs. Joe's baconis safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws 
to regulate themeat packing industry.

In the morningshower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly 
labeled with eachingredient and its amount in the total contents because some 
crybaby liberalfought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and 
how much itcontained.

Joe dresses,walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean 
becausesome environmentalist wacko liberal fought for laws to stop industries 
frompolluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his 
government-subsidizedride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking 
and transportationfees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable 
publictransportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins hiswork day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, 
retirement,paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members 
fought anddied for these working standards. Joe's employer pays these standards 
becauseJoe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union. If Joe is 
hurt onthe job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a worker compensation or 
unemploymentcheck because some stupid liberal didn't think he should lose his 
home or gohungry because of his temporary misfortune.

It's noontimeand Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. 
Joe's deposit isfederally insured by the FSLIC because some godless liberal 
wanted to protectJoe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking 
system before theGreat Depression.

Joe has to payhis Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal 
student loanbecause some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government 
would bebetter off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime.

Joe is homefrom work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm 
home in thecountry. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the 
safest in theworld because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety 
standards. Hearrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live 
in the housefinanced by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers didn't 
want to makerural loans. The house didn't have electricity until some 
big-governmentliberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural 
electrification.

He is happy tosee his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social 
Security and aunion pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal 
made sure hecould take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.

Joe gets backin his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The 
radio hostkeeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He 
doesn'tmention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every 
protection andbenefit Joe enjoys throughout his day.

Joe agrees:"We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After 
all,I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, justlike I 
have."


    On Monday, March 21, 2022, 12:38:16 PM EDT, Bob Bridges 
<robhbrid...@gmail.com> wrote:

 I've a favorite tagline that says "the problem with communism is communism.  The 
problem with capitalism is capitalists".  I know, Bill, you weren't advocating 
communism; the point here is that that your complaint isn't about capitalism per se -- or 
shouldn't be -- but about how some people behave under it.  Some, not all.

In my ignorant teen years I used to advocate rigid laissez-faire capitalism, 
without all those interfering government busybodies trying vainly and foolishly 
to regulate the market.  Then I learned more about the behaviors that the 
Sherman anti-trust act (for example) were trying to correct, and I changed my 
mind.  By all means rail against the foolish behavior of this company or that 
(which is really the behavior of some managers in this company or that).  But 
it's a mistake to blame the whole system for the sins of some.

---
Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313

/* I hold it, that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as 
necessary in the political world as storms in the physical.  -Thomas Jefferson 
*/

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of 
Bill Johnson
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2022 12:07

As a social Democrat who believes a well regulated capitalism is the best 
system, I’ve witnessed the terrible outcomes of pure greed capitalism. The 
human costs, the absolute greed, the eventual closing of those companies. 
Global warming will be what shows how bad capitalism is.

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