I remember independent TNLs hitting the same page, neither including the new 
text of the other. The indexed BM READ collections were a major improvement, 
IMHO, although they messed up diagrams. The PDF manuals should have had 
equivalent functionality, but they're no there yet.


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Carmen Vitullo [[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2022 12:24 PM
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Subject: Re: IBM Knowledge Center down?

not shameless IMHO, a great tool I use first before hitting the books.

to age myself a bit, I remember getting boxes of hard copy, and updates
periodically and was able to update the doc by hand, anyone remember the

| update makes and what pages to remove and replace?

taking that away and replacing it with a ACTION(DOC) update is little to
no help with all the products that now encompass the base

I hope IBM developers are reading, listening, we really need the ability
to update PDF doc, IBM pushed KC to be on our local processors, and HAD
a great tool to get the doc from IBM and update our local copy of the
KC, last I head that's not working? or de funked?

I don't know how this can be done, but I'm sure it can be done via SMP/E
or an outboard tool to update our local doc with any ACTION(DOC) I would
be willing to do what's necessary to create a local repository and
update any cfg file to make this happen locally

Carmen



On 1/21/2022 11:03 AM, Ramsey Hallman wrote:
> To throw in a shameless plug, if you have MVS/QuickRef, much of the IBM and
> ISV content is available on your mainframe for instant access, internet or
> not, KC up or down, USB plugable, etc.  And for our clients, if there is
> content we do not currently have that you desire, let us know and we will
> do our best to obtain that content and add it to our database.
>
> Prior to becoming a developer for MVS/QuickRef, every shop I worked in as a
> s/p had QuickRef.  If it didn't when I arrived, it did by the time I left.
> I don't know what I would have done without it.  It's almost impossible to
> keep physical manuals up to date as quickly as software changes.
>
> Ramsey Hallman
> MVS/QuickRef Development
> Chicago-Soft, Ltd.
>
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 10:48 AM René Jansen<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, that is a very good idea. It would follow the general route in which
>> progress is made, then undone, and then redone. As JSON api’s to everything
>> are the fashion nowadays, that would be really welcome to stay updated, by
>> e.g. having a nightly cronjob that updates the docs databases. If these
>> were of the tagged variety, we could even generate updated PDFs out of
>> these. I would be like updating TLS newsletters without catching your
>> finger in the blue binder!
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> René.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On 21 Jan 2022, at 16:25, Matt Hogstrom<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>
>>> One thing not mentioned on the thread is the ability to have APIs to
>> read the IBM document database.  If one exists please share.  The document
>> database assumes a human at a browser which is limiting and a supported and
>> stable API interface would be welcome.
>>> Matt Hogstrom
>>> PGP key 0F143BC1
>>>
>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 17:18, Hank Oerlemans <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>> How many online systems have IBM put out there now ?
>>>> Just when it's all seems stable it changes and we go around again.
>>>> I could mention the stacks of manuals I started with that never went
>> down :-) but think of the trees.
>>>> Damn ! Am I that old ?
>>>>
>>>> I'm gonna download the pdf collection for now.
>>>>
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