> On 16 Nov 2021, at 5:55 am, zMan <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >> Neither "Unformatted System Services" nor "Unix System Services" has or > should have the word "screen". > I dunno, after the many, Many, MANY times we've gone round on this I *want *to > screen!!!! >
+ 1000000 >> On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 12:32 PM Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Neither "Unformatted System Services" nor "Unix System Services" has or >> should have the word "screen". USS in VTAM determines the appropriate >> logmode for an unformatted logon. USS for TN3270 includes equivalent >> functionality; Unix System Services is what used to be MVS Open Edition in >> 1993, two decades after VTAM and USS. If there is an unformatted screen >> services it'sa not part of either VTAM or Unix. >> >> Of course, TN3270 includes the logon screen and Unix System Services >> includes 3270 support, but "screen" is still not part of the names, and >> never has been. >> >> The last I heard from IBM, USS was an official abbreviation for only >> Unformatted System Services. >> >> >> -- >> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz >> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf >> of Matt Hogstrom [[email protected]] >> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 1:29 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Words fail me! >> >> Unformatted System Services was used in VTAM to specify the screen and >> responses to uses to logon to formal VTAM sessions like TSO and CICS. >> >> USS was Unix System Services IIRC >> >> Matt Hogstrom >> PGP key 0F143BC1 >> >>>> On Nov 13, 2021, at 21:02, [email protected] wrote: >>> >>> Way back when (long before UNIX was added to MVS) the network sysprog >> told me that USS stood for Unformatted Screen Services. >>> >>> Years after that but years (decades?) ago, I noticed that some VTAM >> books were talking about UNIX System Services in a context completely >> unrelated to UNIX. >>> >>> I sent feedback that this was not the correct expansion of USS in this >> context. I expect others also did. References to UNIX were soon removed. >>> >>> But I wonder if that is why VTAM books talk about Unformatted System >> Services now - because they changed UNIX to Unformatted, but not System to >> Screen. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Greg >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> > > > -- > zMan -- "I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it" > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
