When you "just called IBM" was that the actual IBM Corporation?

Their sole point of "IBM" contact seems to be a Business Partner. I figured
out that when they say "IBM said" they mean the BP said. And apparently the
BP has told them "no way." Perhaps they are confused, perhaps the BP is
tired of them, perhaps the BP wants to sell them new hardware; I don't know.

Can they go around the BP and open a dialog with "real IBM"? How?

Charles


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Subject: Re: Licensing a back-level z/OS

We have done it on multiple occasions for 'way back' releases. Another 
guy in my org just called IBM and told them our problem. Now, only in 
one case did we need tapes and happily IBM was able to send them to us.

Tony Thigpen

Charles Mills wrote on 10/22/21 12:52 PM:
> I have a client who has a customer that is in a pickle. Yes, of their own
> making, but it is what it is. Government agency, limited budgets, long
> procurement cycles, personnel constraints, etc. They are running z/OS
V1R10
> on a z114. They now have an urgent need to be able to run COBOL 6
> executables. (Yes, there is a longer story here, but I think I have
covered
> the technical essentials.)
> 
> COBOL 6 executables absolutely require LE V2R1 or above. (Someone please
> correct me if I am wrong.)
> 
> The z114 will support up to z/OS V2R2. V2R2 is of course withdrawn from
> marketing. Can I get some help here? What are the chances that they could
> obtain V2R2 media? Can anyone help me out? There is no desire to run
pirated
> software. Is there any route by which one obtains a license from IBM for
> back-level z/OS?
> 
> One bit of good news: They are running V1R10 under VM so it would be
> possible to install a new instance of V2R2; it is not necessary to upgrade
> their running system.
> 
> Any other suggestions -- other than don't get yourself into pickles --
would
> be welcomed. The use of an off-premises box does not appear to be a good
> option because the COBOL 6 executables will have to read and update data
> sets that are also used by online systems running on the existing V1R10 --
> although not necessarily simultaneously.
> 
> Feel free to respond off-line if appropriate. Charlesm at mcn dot org

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