Ron,
My opinion is that IBM is just as bad now that they are 'cloud eccentric'. (Yes, play on words, not a misspelling.)

Tony Thigpen

Ron Wells wrote on 10/21/21 9:05 AM:
IBM needs to push back in Marketing , be more forceful stop the lies- smoke and 
mirrors

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Agree-

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Understanding TCO is extremely important, yet frequently overlooked. Management 
sometimes doesn’t care or isn’t smart enough to determine it. My last boss only 
cared about initial cost, which he could take to his boss and say “see, I saved 
you $10,000” even though in 5 years he likely cost the company $50,000 in lost 
productivity, downtime, or other issues he didn’t factor in. Of course, my last 
boss was a Unix guy with zero knowledge of the mainframe and no desire to learn 
or take recommendations from his mainframe staff of 5 who combined had almost 
200 years of experience.


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On Thursday, October 21, 2021, 8:44 AM, Ron Wells 
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Marketing BS for the UNEDUCATED MGNT that only look at the $$ and does not know 
or understand TRUE TCO.
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Does anyone out there know what is meant by the expression "Mainframe Modernization' 
'? It seems  to be catching on with the Bobs but when you ask exactly how they propose to 
modernize their systems all you get is silence. As in if you don"know we shouldn't 
even be talking about it.
Any ideas ? Or is it just more BS like 'cloud' or 'devops'?

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