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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf of 
Joel C. Ewing [[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 10:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: IBM Zcloud - is it just outsourcing ?

No, "cloud" and "outsourcing" are two distinct concepts.  While it is
very likely these days that all "outsourcing" would involve cloud-based
services, it is not true that "cloud-based" services must be "outsourced".

A corporation can easily choose to run its own distributed, in-house
cloud services.   Any corporate data center that supports branch offices
with remote access over the Internet to corporate applications fits the
definition of cloud-based computing from the viewpoint of the branch
offices.  If the corporate data center is not outsourced, then neither
are the cloud-based services it provides to its branches.

    J.C. Ewing

On 5/27/21 9:03 AM, Bill Johnson wrote:
> All clouds are just outsourcing. Renamed cloud so people would think they are 
> on the new tech. I was part of EDS outsourcing of GM back in the 80’s. Moving 
> data processing from GM plants to EDS data centers.
>
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> On Thursday, May 27, 2021, 9:26 AM, Mark Jacobs 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> AFAIK you're correct. $Previousjob moved our datacenter to ZCloud which was 
> hosted and supported by IBM Global Services.
>
> Mark Jacobs
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> On Thursday, May 27th, 2021 at 9:22 AM, Keith Gooding 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I have been asked if a z/OS software product is supported on IBM Zcloud.
>>
>> As far as I can see Zcloud is just old-fashioned outsourcing where a z/os 
>> system runs in an LPAR on someone else’s computer, albeit with the ability 
>> to dynamically add computing resources for temporary workload spikes etc.
>>
>> Am I missing something or is there ‘proper’ cloud technology, such 
>> provisioning of middleware using cloud provisioning like AWS etc.
>>
>> Keith Gooding
>>
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