Try it a different way?
Download different files from the mainframe to a windows environment using 
different protocols
Look at the downloaded files to see if they look at all similar in format to 
YOUR files
That might help you work backwards






Chris Hoelscher
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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
Hilario Garcia
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 11:49 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Format PDS unloaded on an CD

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Hello Joe,

The files were downloaded from a Z / OS in 2007. I don't know how and with what 
format. You are correct.

Would you recommend me to take any other action to solve the problem?

Thank you very much in advance.

Kind Regards

Hilario

El lun, 19 abr 2021 a las 14:23, Joe Monk (<[email protected]>) escribió:

> OK ...  maybe now we're getting  somewhere...
>
> I think we  are having a case of deja vu here. Going back thru the 
> archives I found where the exact same dataset was created in 2007:
>
>  -Original Message-
>  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On  
> Behalf Of David Day
>  Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 5:34 PM
>  To: [email protected]
>  Subject: IEBCOPY Unloaded dataset to PC and back again...not 
> successful
>
>  I used IEBCOPY to create a sequentail backup of an ISPF  panel  
> library.  I then used IND$FILE to transfer the dataset to my PC.  
> Thought  I'd test the backup out by transferring back to the 
> mainframe, and got the  following when I tried to use IEBCOPY to load the 
> members back.
>
>  STEP1COPY  INDD=SYSUT1,OUTDD=SYSUT2 GENERATED STATEMENT  IEB1128I *** 
> COPYR1 (1ST PDSU PHYSICAL RECORD)
>    009400   1810 180C0100 00CA6D0F 02001810  |  _ |
>    009410 0010  00509000 1810 3030200F 7FF8  | 8|
>    009420 0020  0D0C000F E5A2 2250 0002006B  |Vs,|
>    009430 0030  008F 0080 0F000B08 A912  |z   |
>    009440 0040  7F00 80807FF8 8800 0012  | 8  h |
>    009450 0050  6A78 1810 0200 9440  |  |   m |
>    009460 0060  6AA8 0C0067E8 6AA0 8800  |  |y   Y  |   h |
>    009470 0070    0002 3F000900  ||
>    009480 0080  0612 20007FF8    |  8|
>    009490 0090       ||
>  IEB120I SYSUT1   VALIDATION ERROR
>  IEB178I NOT AN IEBCOPY UNLOADED DATA SET - 1ST PHYSICAL RECORD NOT 64  
> BYTES LONG - ACTUAL VALUE IS X'001810'
>
>   The IND$FILE for the GET or PUT operation did not specify CRLF as a  
> parameter.  Can someone tell me what I did wrong, or if there is a  
> 'better' way to backup PDS data on a PC.  Thanks.
>
>  --Dave Day
>
>
> So,  now  you know what  you  have. An ISPF panel library, that was 
> unloaded via  IEBCOPY, then IND$FILE to a PC without  specifying  CRLF 
> then back to the mainframe.
>
> Joe
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 4:04 AM Hilario Garcia <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Thank you very much for your answer. I had already tried the 
> > solution you recommended and it gave me the following problem:
> >
> > IEBCOPY  COPY      INDD=SYSUT1,OUTDD=SYSUT2         GENERATED STATEMENT
> >
> > IEB1128I *** COPYR1 (1ST PDSU PHYSICAL RECORD)
> >
> >   0094A0 FFF8  00000000 00000000 7FE40000 7FE00000  |        "U  "\  |
> >
> >   0094B0 0008  00CA6D0F 020018B0 00509000 00807FF8  |  _      &    "8|
> >
> >   0094C0 0018  3030200F 00007FF8 2721000F E5A20000  |      "8    Vs  |
> >
> >   0094D0 0028  22520000 0002006B 00DE0000 00800000  |       ,        |
> >
> >   0094E0 0038  01000B07 69300000 7F000000 80807FF8  |        "     "8|
> >
> >   0094F0 0048  00008800 0011F000 00006540 00007FE4  |  h   0       "U|
> >
> >   009500 0058  02000000 000094E8 00006570 0C000014  |      mY        |
> >
> >   009510 0068  00006568 00008800 00000000 00000000  |      h         |
> >
> >   009520 0078  00000000 16000400 0611F000 20007FF8  |          0   "8|
> >
> >   009530 0088  00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000  ||
> >
> >   009540 0098  00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000  ||
> >
> > IEB120I SYSUT1   VALIDATION ERROR
> >
> > IEB178I NOT AN IEBCOPY UNLOADED DATA SET - 1ST PHYSICAL RECORD NOT 
> > 64
> BYTES
> > LONG
> > IEB1030I DDNAME SYSUT1   REFERS TO PDSU DATA SET ON VOLUME SSSSSS NAMED
> > IBMUSER.
> > IEB1030I DDNAME SYSUT2   REFERS TO PDS  DATA SET ON VOLUME SSSSSS NAMED
> > IBMUSER.
> > IEB166I NO MEMBERS LOADED TO DATA SET REFERENCED BY SYSUT2
> >
> > IEB151I JOB HAS TERMINATED WITH ERROR(S)
> >
> > IEB147I END OF JOB - 8 WAS HIGHEST SEVERITY CODE
> >
> >
> > Do you recommend any other possible solution.
> >
> > Thank you very much in advance.
> >
> > Kind Regards
> >
> > Hilario
> >
> > El lun, 19 abr 2021 a las 10:29, Styles, Andy (ITS zPlatform 
> > Services) (<
> > [email protected]>) escribió:
> >
> > > Classification: Public
> > >
> > > I wonder if these are IEBCOPY unload format - that is, IEBCOPY 
> > > from a
> PDS
> > > to a PS.  It's been years since I had to deal with those, probably
> since
> > I
> > > installed products directly from a vendor tape (one of those round
> things
> > > with the write-protect ring).
> > >
> > > IEBCOPY seems to create unload format dasd datasets (here, at 
> > > least) as
> > >
> > > Organization  . . . : PS
> > > Record format . . . : VS
> > > Record length . . . : 32736
> > > Block size  . . . . : 32740
> > >
> > > Worth uploading one of those files as binary and then using an 
> > > IEBCOPY
> PS
> > > to PDS to reload it?
> > >
> > > Andy Styles
> > > z/Series System Programmer
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On
> Behalf
> > > Of Hilario Garcia
> > > Sent: 19 April 2021 06:42
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Fwd: Format PDS unloaded on an CD
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> > > De: Hilario Garcia <[email protected]>
> > > Date: lun, 19 abr 2021 a las 7:40
> > > Subject: Format PDS unloaded on an CD
> > > To: <[email protected]>
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Thank you very much for your contributions.
> > > I have done multiple tests with different utilities (XMIT, FTP, 
> > > IND $
> > FILE,
> > > AMATERSE) and I have not been able to download them in a valid format.
> > > Attached I send in hexadecimal format the beginning of one of the 
> > > PDS (loaded as FB, lrecl = 80) and it seems that at the beginning 
> > > of the
> file
> > > is the directory of a PDS partitioned file. If the file is loaded 
> > > as FB
> > and
> > > 80 bytes long, you can see the code in EBCDIC format. The original 
> > > file
> > is
> > > in format binary and I have loaded it in binary.
> > >
> > > I would appreciate your help in this regard.
> > >
> > > Thank you very much in advance.
> > >
> > > Kind Regards
> > >
> > > Hilario
> > >
> > >
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