I guess I could expand on this some more.   zEC12 is the only built-in solution 
I am aware of.  Don't think there is anything that will co-exist with it in the 
market, now or probably ever.   That being said, I am aware that DASD vendors 
market solid-state disk, which present to the operating system as traditional 
DASD.   That is not new technology.

Not sure if you were asking that, or not.  However, the answers to that should 
be the same too, covered under maintenance agreement.

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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Jousma, David
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 7:20 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Flash Cards on MVS

Ed,

If you are speaking of the new zEC12, with the Flash Express option, A couple 
things come to mind, but I have no direct knowledge because we don't have Flash 
Express.   

- It is a feature code of the zEC12.  So only IBM parts, no OEM
- Since it is a feature code of the zEC12, it would be covered under the same 
maintenance as any other part of the processor.
- requires z/OS 1.13+maint to exploit

There is fault tolerance built in, and replacement can be done concurrently.   
At this time, I am pretty sure that the only exploiters are PAGING and Dump 
Services.  I hear of other plans, but don't know if those have been implemented 
yet.

Here is a link to the redbook zEC12 Technical Guide(see Appendix C).  It pretty 
much appears to answer all your questions:  
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg248049.pdf

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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Ed Gould
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 4:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Flash Cards on MVS

I got one civil reply offline. The uncivil one from eastern Europe is not worth 
the courtesy of a reply.

I will attempt to rephrase the question(s) below.
I have a customer that is looking at the most current IBM system.
I do not have contact with anyone that has the most current IBM system, so I am 
asking the group nicely, several questions.
These are more operations (IMO) issues questions and figured the group would 
have the knowledge to reply.
I did google and really didn't come up with any answers pertaining to IBM's MF 
implementation of Flash cards.

Has anyone have experience with implementing IBM's (NOT STK or OEM)   
flash cards.

What is the typical longevity of IBM's Flash cards and do you keep a few around 
just in case or ?

IF/when they reach their end of life do you toss them return them to IBM etc... 
(how many spares do you keep on hand) How does your company handle replacements 
ie operations (or another
group) handles the insertion and taking out of "old" cards.

IOW operations side of the of the handling.

Thanks in advance for any information. 

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