I do not have an accurate big picture nor a decent set of data to work with, 
but here are a few google hits that do not inspire confidence, just anecdotal 
stuff of course....  

https://www.cbronline.com/news/aws-servers-hacked-rootkit-in-the-cloud 

https://tamebay.com/2020/05/amazon-warn-of-hacked-amazon-accounts-issue-account-recovery-advice.html
 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/10519079/amazon-accounts-hacked-fraudsters/ 

Does AWS have any security components on par with ICSF and RACF on the security 
front that you're aware of?  Here's a link to their identity and access 
management UG... 
https://docs.aws.amazon.com/IAM/latest/UserGuide/id_credentials_access-keys.html?icmpid=docs_iam_console
  Browsing through it briefly makes me wonder what an AWS secure key repository 
and management tools might look like.  

Having been the victim of a minor identity theft myself in recent years, 
probably adds to my skepticism about cloud service provider security claims.   

Mike 

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>> snip much
>
>Cloud computing is alot like teenage sex - everybody is doing it (or wants to 
>do it) but nobody has a flippin' clue how to do it correctly!!!

What I fear is that Amazon and Microsoft both have a far better idea of what 
cloud computing is and how to do it than does IBM.  I also suspect that Amazon 
has all of their computing on their cloud and is very well aware of the need 
for high security and has worked very hard to achieve it.  Microsoft based on 
my experience with their Knowledge Center (repository for fixes and the 
equivalent of PTF cover letters) seems to understand high availability better 
than IBM based on postings here on ibm-main.

Clark Morris

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