Quick poll for the list: Can we all follow a 'rule' that says [OT] must be added in all off-topic discussions, so we can filter them out if required?
- KB ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Thursday, July 23, 2020 9:38 AM, Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote: > That explains why the term used in the 19th Century was confusing; it has no > relevance to the issue of whether the term is limited to temperatures in the > range 0-100. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf of > Wayne Bickerdike [[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 11:16 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years? > > WTF? It's true that both used (past tense) the freezing and boiling point > of "water" at STP, but since when weren't they defined outside of 0-100?" > > Because: > > The centigrade scale was confusing because "centigrade" was also the > Spanish and French term for a unit of angular measurement equal to 1/100 of > a right angle. When the scale was extended from 0 to 100 degrees for > temperature, centigrade was more properly hectograde. The public was > largely unaffected by the confusion. Even though the degree Celsius was > adopted by international committees in 1948, weather forecasts issued by > the BBC continued to use degrees centigrade until February 1985. > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 9:27 AM Seymour J Metz [email protected] wrote: > > > WTF? It's true that both used (past tense) the freezing and boiling point > > of "water" at STP, but since when weren't they defined outside of 0-100? > > Scare quotes because there is no standard for the percent of Deuterium in > > the water. > > -- > > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf > > of Wayne Bickerdike [[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 5:58 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years? > > Centigrade was derived from Celsius, however, both described only the > > freezing point and boiling point of water at NTP. > > My physics teachers said don't say >100 centigrade. It's outside the > > bounds. So physicists use Kelvin. > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 7:26 AM Seymour J Metz [email protected] wrote: > > > > > Actually, i does, but is not as precise: > > > > https://secure-web.cisco.com/1ZfcTRtyL1fHmGItPj-arpyyhb5EkDhUxhc8INI8z9BhT28rjk7J8JV2395Uwd7sGnpC_G5-WdPEkYaPYMrlh1fItSRJOUCDucUqXK5IOPjKCoC4RfbpCc1ufuEYxlinUM0WiPti_hVwdTYo1ZDI5RpLaTn1egI8jCtSkqHfLm8llGulJJUBk1ep2_bu4jEVyJvZccjCMguX5TP6eLTE2CtooWHn9naE2zF2ERJedlrw2LP0dkgR-DFrpOz7By8t7fYf1tNYFfpdL_FWB-R7Y7xXjlhtiuV8Bg1V6FWgAIiTC_TksQft1PDlIRHGjVUBu0mhbtwK07UF_blEtDFQgdEGWmaB9pTGCU2vwq0y2i3IJqA1m35BuWPympC_mbki5G6k9m9wDvZ_KMV6wap-BOnIkG4CvMdpMRheDkVgxg1ju3hbqn_LZLkKGuLqKxj0z30xjGHfcHsEKDUm037cMww/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thoughtco.com%2Fdifference-between-celsius-and-centigrade-609226 > > > > > -- > > > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > > > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [email protected] on behalf > > > of Joe Monk [email protected] > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 4:54 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years? > > > Kelvin (absolute temperature) is converted from Celsius. Centigrade > > > doesn't > > > exist. > > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 13:46 Jackson, Rob [email protected] > > > wrote: > > > > > > > We have definitely devolved . . . like we always do on this forum. > > > > It's > > > > > > > fun though, right? > > > > I agree on Celsius. The name disturbs me too. Centigrade is more > > > > pleasant for some reason. Reminds me of tardigrade. Now that is > > > > something > > > > we could all ponder and be better off. > > > > First Horizon Bank > > > > Mainframe Technical Support > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [email protected] On > > > > Behalf > > > > > > > Of Bob Bridges > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 2:29 PM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These > > > > Years? > > > > > > > [External Email. Exercise caution when clicking links or opening > > > > attachments.] > > > > I just think the word "Celsius" is ugly; "centigrade" is comparatively > > > > euphonious. A personal bias. > > > > > > > > Bob Bridges, [email protected], cell 336 382-7313 > > > > /* Do you know what constitutes a "hate crime"? Put your thinking caps > > > > on. What tools do we need to determine whether a crime was motivated > > > > by > > > > > > > hate or prejudice? Answer: We need thought police. -from "See, I Told > > > > You > > > > So" by Rush Limbaugh */ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > On > > > > > > > Behalf Of Joe Monk > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 12:17 > > > > Centigrade? It always thought it's Celsius. :) > > > > --- On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 11:16 AM Bob Bridges < > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Interesting; centigrade is the one system I use nowadays without > > > > > having to think much about it. It's so easy: 0s are cold, 10s are > > > > > cool, 20s are warm, 30s are hot. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Jackson, Rob > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 23:23 > > > > > As a disclaimer, I'm not a complete bigot. I say miles and yards; > > > > > but > > > > > > > > I have this nasty habit of converting them to meters in my mind every > > > > > time I say them. The one thing I cannot get used to in every-day > > > > > life > > > > > > > > is Celsius degrees. I think in Fahrenheit degrees. Oddly enough, > > > > > since they're exactly the same thing, I find it easier to talk in > > > > > Kelvins rather than Celsius degrees. Maybe I just like starting at > > > > > zero. :) I couldn't tell you what absolute zero in Fahrenheit is; I > > > > > guess I never cared. > > > > > > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > > > > email > > > > to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > Confidentiality notice: > > > > This e-mail message, including any attachments, may contain legally > > > > privileged and/or confidential information. 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