Sounds great--BUT--as IBM Marketing idiots have done in the past..look for $$ 
..instead of helping the enhancement of systems and training of new upcoming 
tech. people.
Yes this would be a great deal in the forth coming future, but I do not see IBM 
Mgnt. Thinking in the lines of the future of the Company. Only self-centered 
people looking for early retirement and $$$.

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Grant Taylor
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Let's turn the mainframe access discussion on it's head.

What would it take for a group of undetermined number of people to form a 
co-op, probably as a legal business entity, to acquire legal, completely above 
board, access to a mainframe (CPC / LPAR / VM) that could run z/VM with 
multiple z/OS guests there in?

The desire is to be able to provide lower cost access to VMs similar to 
traditional VPSs for hobbyists and students.

All legal.
All licensed.
All completely above board.
Depending on equipment configuration, all with proper service contracts.

I wonder just how high, or possibly low, the bar would be.

Is it even remotely something a group of 5 / 10 / 25 / ?? hobbyists could get 
together and pool their resources and do?

I know multiple people that have CPCs.  But they don't currently have DASD.  I 
think at least one of them has a line on legal licenses for z/OS for his CPC.

What would it take for one of these people to legally provide other hobbyists / 
students access to their systems?



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Grant. . . .
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