that's about the same for me, I save the SMPHRPT, massage it some , but 
eventually all the holds for ACTION,DOC and AO, I save to a text file. 
automating that process would be great and I'm sure it can be done but I've had 
much success using IEBEYEBALL 



Carmen Vitullo 

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Thanks everyone. Sounds like my "old" method may still be valid. :) 

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I cannot answer your question about exporting the data, or if anyone has 
written anything to parse it out. I personally, just browse the output from the 
apply check, and read there. If I do a "F REASON(" it takes me to the first 
line of each hold item. If I feel like have some action to take, I'll cut/paste 
the screenshot into email to farm out to the appropriate SME in my team. 

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Follow up question, since everyone has been very helpful and correcting my 
"old" thinking about SMP/e maintenance. :) What is some way to get a list of 
SYSTEMHOLDs, like ACTION, EC, ENH, in a good and readable format? Maybe a 
spreadsheet format? 

Thanks, 
Jerry Edgington 

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And yes, I check the SMPRPT for various items, like Usermods, Missing PTFs, 
etc. Thanks again. 

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Yes. As Rex pointed out, the first part of the output in the SMPRPT DD 
statement will be the listing of what PTF's did NOT go on, and why. You'll want 
to review that, and make sure the only ones that did not go on were the ones 
with Errorhold. If a PTF you wanted to go on didn't, it will show here (MODID 
error for example if you have a usermod), or a space problem on a target 
dataset, etc. 

Here is an example of a APPLY I ran today. One PTF didn't not go on, because it 
is in error. 

CAUSER SYSMOD SUMMARY REPORT FOR APPLY PROCESSING 

CAUSER FMID MESSAGE ID PAGE ERROR DESCRIPTION AND POSSIBLE CAUSES 

UJ02757 HDZ2240 GIM35901I 1 ERROR HOLD CA59681 WAS NOT RESOLVED. 
PAGE 0003 - NOW SET TO TARGET ZONE MVSTZN DATE 06/22/20 TIME 07:43:25 SMP/E 
37.05 SMPRPT OUTPUT 

UNRESOLVED HOLD REASON REPORT FOR APPLY PROCESSING 

NOTE: THE SYSMODS LISTED IN THIS REPORT ALSO APPEAR IN THE CAUSER SYSMOD 
SUMMARY REPORT. 

HOLD MISSING HELD RESOLVING RESOLVER 
TYPE FMID CLASS APAR SYSMOD SYSMOD STATUS 
------ ------- ------- ------- ------- --------- -------- 
ERROR HDZ2240 PE CA59681 UJ02757 
PAGE 0004 - NOW SET TO TARGET ZONE MVSTZN DATE 06/22/20 TIME 07:43:25 SMP/E 
37.05 SMPRPT OUTPUT 

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Dave, 

So, if you get RC=8, you run the Apply anyway, just letting SMP/e determine 
what PTFs can be applied, correct? If that is the case, that would simplify the 
SMP/e apply process. 

Thanks, 
Jerry 

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I do not attempt to get a RC0 or RC4 apply. What goes on goes on. Obviously 
review results to make sure that there wasn't an issue, but coding up a bunch 
of excludes to not select those with holderror just to get a RC0 is not 
necessary in my opinion. 

Here is one apply example 

APPLY CHECK 
SOURCEID ( 
SYSPLXDS 
XSYSTEM 
HIPER 
IBM.* 
RSU* 
SECINT 
) 
GROUPEXTEND 
( 
NOAPARS 
NOUSERMODS 
) 
BYPASS ( HOLDSYSTEM) 
NOJCLINREPORT 
RETRY ( YES ) 
. 

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Hello everyone, 

I am looking for SMP/e methodologies about a couple of situations within SMP/e. 
Just looking for how people do SMP/e maintenance in certain situations. 

1) What methodology is employed to get to a clean Apply Check, when you 
outstanding Error Holds? APARs without PTFs, local fix or work arounds? 
2) For Apply check, what PARMs do you use? Select, FixCat, Bypass, etc? 

I was taught a SMP/e methodology, many years ago, but just wondering if there 
might be a better way. 

Thanks, 
Jerry Edgington 


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