IBM Legal has a conniption fit over the word 'free', but I'm pretty sure that 
as a base element, there is 'no charge' once you pay the freight for z/OS. The 
key in uploading or downloading anything other than straight text is to specify 
'binary'. The Vista3270 app gives you that choice and remembers from one 
invocation to the next. 

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Southern California Edison Company
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of 
Charles Mills
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:18 PM
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Is it free? I see it's a "base element." Does that make it free? (Gift with 
purchase.) I seemed to recall that it was chargeable.

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.e0za100/e0za10034.htm

Charles


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Subject: Re: Good FTP client for MVS data set access

I refrained from mentioning IND$FILE because that did not seem to be the 
question. But in fact I'm a fan of IND$FILE: it's built in to z/OS, i.e. free; 
it's simple to use; and it's reasonably efficient for small files. I would 
never attempt to use it for very large files, but for a moderate size file, I 
can have the file transferred using IND$FILE in less time than I would spend 
trying to correct the syntax and pass the typos with FTP.

Best of all, Tom Brennan's Vista3270 has a graphical interface to IND$FILE that 
makes up- or downloading a file pretty easy. I asked Tom why he didn't include 
a similar function for FTP. He said that he did not invent (or maintain) the 
IND$FILE graphical feature, which is a standard function that he simply hooks 
into. There are of course comparable products for FTP, but Tom doesn't have to 
make assumptions or requirements for IND$FILE.

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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Bob 
Bridges
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 10:34 AM
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Wha...?  I might have misunderstood you, but it sounds like you're saying I can 
1) collect all the REXX execs I want to transfer to the mainframe, 2) ZIP them 
up (using PKZIP or WinZIP or 7-ZIP or whatever), 3) IND$FILE the .zip file to 
the mainframe, and then 4) ...here's where I bog down.  Is there a mainframe 
utility that can read .zip files?

And if there is (I never dreamt that), maybe I actually bog down at step 3:
Do I do the transfer in text or binary?

Are you sure you're not just having me on?

Even if you are, it suddenly occurs to me that there's a PC-based utility that 
handles XMIT files, and I think I have a copy left over from an old project.  I 
can bundle them all up in a XMIT file, copy that to the host, then RECEIVE it 
there.

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Seymour J Metz
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:34

Why not zip them and do a single transfer of the zip file, then unzip them?

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Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 1:20 AM

Sometimes all that's allowed, though.  Some of my clients lock up FTP, and make 
me use IND$FILE via whatever local 3270 emulation they use.

This can be a major pain.  Whenever I start at a new installation, one of my 
first jobs is to load up a bunch of REXX tools I've written over the years.
If I have to do them one at a time, it's a big bottleneck.  Most apps of that 
sort allow you to set up a list of files - but you have to enter the list 
manually, one by one, providing the filename on your PC and the target DSN on 
the mainframe, so it's not saving anything (and is a one-time job, after all).  
Last time I had to deal with it I reverse-engineered the format used for 
multi-file transfers and had VBA create a longer list for me.  I felt a fine, 
self-congratulatory glow at having hacked the system, but really, it shouldn't 
have been necessary.

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Charles Mills
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 23:39

Also slower than a dog, and if you are working for the security folks, 
basically unaudited.

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of David Spiegel
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 7:05 PM

I have painfully experienced instances where IND$FILE (on z/VM) mangled a 
Binary Upload from my MS-Windows 10 Pro workstation.
It works every time I use FTP, though (via CLI or WinSCP).

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