The problem is that DOS has a different API. Calling it a DOS window may lead 
someone to expect that he can run an old DOS application in it, which he can 
only do in certain versions of windoze. I know that m$ wanted to kill that asd 
part of killing off the 32-bit API; I don't know whether they had to back off 
from that position.


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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

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I'm an old guy.  (Maybe a lot of us are.)  I still call it "the DOS window" in 
my head, I think because I predate Win 3.1; for a long time I was a plain DOS 
user (the PC DOS, not the early mainframe DOS).  Win 3.1 wasn't really a 
Windows operating system as it's understood now; DOS was the OS, and Win 3.1 
sat on top of it as ISPF sits on top of TSO, providing a user interface.

So for quite a while I did a lot of work in "the DOS window" even after Windows 
was around.  Still do, from time to time, when I want a particular kind of file 
listing ("dir xyz*.docx>x.txt") or file rename.  Or (non-encrypted) FTP.

Yeah, I meant what I guess is now cmd.exe

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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 20:15

Is "DOS" the same as "cmd.exe"? The latter seems clearer.

--- On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 16:58:07 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
>No flames from me but Windows "DOS" FTP has no TLS support -- is that not
>right?
>
>Not needed in every situation but required in some.

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