> their "so called" standard was for newsgroups, not email

RFC 2646, RFC 3676


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Tony Thigpen [t...@vse2pdf.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 4:13 PM
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Subject: Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

 > Wait - is bottom-posting a thing?

YES! The old newsgroup specification said bottom-posting was required.

Back when I started using Thunderbird as an email client (around 2002?),
TB forced you to bottom-post and it took a special hidden option to
allow top-posting. And, it did not really work right if using a text
file signature line. There was a *BIG* argument between the users
(wanting top-posting) and the developers saying bottom-posting was a
published standard). It took years (10+) before the developers gave in.

Also, back in those days, it was clearly pointed out to the developers
that their "so called" standard was for newsgroups, not email but they
were stuck deep in their "we know what is right" mode. They also ignored
the fact that Outlook had been using top-posting for years and around
that time Outlook was the most used email client and had really become
more of the standard.

I bet we all know programmers that "know better than us". (Or, should I
be looking in a mirror?) :-)

Tony Thigpen

Bob Bridges wrote on 6/13/20 1:46 PM:
> Wait - is bottom-posting a thing?  I've always assumed that bottom-posters 
> are just careless; they read down to a certain point, and then type in their 
> responses without thinking about where.  Are you saying that some people post 
> at the bottom ON PURPOSE?!
>
> Why, for heaven's sake?
>
> ---
> Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313
>
> /* Winning isn't everything, but then losing is nothing. */
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
> Behalf Of Charles Mills
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 13:21
>
> What is it with tech bulletin boards and the fuss about top-posting? I will 
> bet I have gotten tens of thousands of business e-mail replies in my life and 
> every single one of them was "top-posted."
>
> What is it about tech bulletin boards where folks seem to want the most 
> relevant stuff -- the new stuff -- at the BOTTOM???
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
> Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 9:54 AM
>
> Does First Horizon require you to use Outlook?  I mostly post from the
> LISTSERV Web interface.
>
> Does it enforce top-posting?  Does it prohibit editing quoted text, heaps
> of legal disclaimers and all?
>
> --- On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 13:17:11 +0000, Jackson, Rob wrote:
>> My cruddy email application (Outlook) doesn't do the >-style quoting (or at 
>> least I don't know how to make it), so let me try below with tabs; it will 
>> probably be ugly.
>
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