True, but not entirely satisfactorily.  Many of the "newer" (FSVO "new") 
complex instructions have yet to be added to any of the Hercules emulator 
systems, so "full" emulation as available in zPDT isn't truly available (yet, 
until/unless more people contribute and make it so).

IMHO IBM could easily make the zPDT system with its developer-level CPU / I/O 
governors to prevent "production" level performance at a realistic hobbyist 
cost level.  But it seems as if zPDT is just another profit opportunity in 
their minds, rather than a community-builder.  In the long run, 
community-building will wind up far more profitable, but that view seems not to 
have penetrated the IBM decision-makers' minds.

What would really blow my mind would be regularly released copies of the 
(in?)famous "Redbook" copy of PoOPS with all the micro- and milli-code 
documentation which could provide a way to (perhaps) quickly be able to emulate 
many of the "new" more complex instructions with micro- and milli-code 
emulation in addition to software emulation of the silicon-implemented 
instructions.

*Never* going to happen of course, because then (heaven forfend!) there could 
well be a re-incarnation of the "clone wars", but one can dream.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of 
John McKown
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 12:50 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes"

On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 11:38 AM Farley, Peter x23353 < 
peter.far...@broadridge.com> wrote:

> John,
>
> It isn't just the $900 per year for the ADCD OS license.  You can’t 
> legally get ADCD without the ~$5K yearly cost of the zPDT dongle and 
> Linux hardware emulation layer to run the OS's.  That's the real kicker.
>
> OTOH I wouldn't be surprised if bad-actor state security organizations 
> (or US security skunkworks organizations for that matter) haven't 
> already reverse-engineered the zPDT dongle for their own nefarious uses.
> Paranoid?  Maybe, maybe not.
>

I have read "elsewhere" that some people got at least some earlier versions of 
z/OS to run on a PC using Hercules/390. So the "bad actor" states likely can 
run z/OS.

>
> Peter
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