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On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 4:08 PM Ron Wells <
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> Subject: Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes"
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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf
> Of Mitch Mccluhan
> Sent: 09 June 2020 13:51
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> Subject: Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes"
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>  Everyone,
> I can tell you as a fact that there are a number of things are true.  Many
> "modernization" projects do end up not being completed, no big mainframe
> shop is looking to get off the mainframe, there are a large number of
> projects underway where the client is "modernizing" on the mainframe
> (language, file conversion, DBMS conversion, etc) and lastly (not a lot,
> but some) there are mainframe shops that are going to the zCloud which is
> essentially moving from one data center to another, keeping the mainframe.
> Anyone who tells you most (100%?, really?) mainframe users are going to
> distributed or distributed platform cloud are exaggerating the truth.  I
> know this because mainframe modernization is what I do for a living.
> Mitch
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> From: Bob Bridges <robhbrid...@gmail.com>
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> Sent: Tue, Jun 9, 2020 7:02 am
> Subject: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes"
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> A coworker just sent me this brief article.
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> https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.techrepublic.com%2Farticle%2Feveryone-wants-to-retire-mainframes-but-74-of-modernization-efforts-fail%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7CRon.Wells%40OMF.COM%7C725a6e6bbfc7491e27da08d80c746d3d%7C57c0053cb5f84a1e8bb6e8afa09f3b82%7C0%7C0%7C637273041502068880&amp;sdata=x%2BEGwGWvVL%2F8lxapfBsYAjOcUtxZ3xmlb2rTqMoMeAE%3D&amp;reserved=0
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> I'm interested in two aspects of this:
>
> 1) The writer uses the word "modernization" quite a bit, and as far as I
> can tell she uses it, without explanation, to mean "switching from
> mainframes to more recently invented platforms".  This is the old
> assumption we've talked about recently.
>
> 2) There's a really surprising number in there:
>
> "...almost 100% of survey respondents plan to move legacy applications to
> the cloud this year and the motivation to move is clear:
>
> - 60% strongly agree they will be left behind competitively if they fail
> to modernize
> - 33% say modernizing has allowed the company to be more reactive to
> market changes
> - 34% say legacy modernization has accelerated digital transformation
> projects
>
> About three-quarters of leaders said they have started a modernization
> program but failed to complete it...."
>
> Can that "almost 100%" claim be true?  I confess that three out of my last
> three clients are talking about eliminating the mainframe, but I supposed
> it to be an anomaly.  Maybe the survey used the word "modernize" and the
> author ~assumed~ this must mean dropping the mainframe.
>
> The article also says "Mainframes are still critical to business
> operations with 71% of the Fortune 500 depending on these machines,
> including 92 of the world's 100 largest banks".  Come on - she's telling us
> that almost ~all~ of those companies intend to switch legacy applications
> to the cloud?  I just can't buy that.  ~My~ bank had certainly better not
> be planning such a move.
>
> ---
> Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313
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