Indeed, this is exactly what our company does.  Our newest COBOL 
victim/developer (<g>) was working in a non-IT part of the company.  I myself 
came from such a place.  As have a not insignificant number of our other COBOL 
programmers.




>________________________________
> From: Thomas H Puddicombe <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected] 
>Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:26 PM
>Subject: Re: Brain drain: Where Cobol systems go from here
> 
>I'm almost old enough to admit I'm old. 
>
>I remember a time when businesses would take the brightest young 
>"business" minds they had, turn them over to folks like Steve (good 
>teachers) for 90 days, and get back ... COBOL programmers who understood 
>the business.  Oddly enough, it was those "90-day wonders" that ground out 
>mass quantities of what is now called "that moldy old COBOL" code. 
>
>Now, folks want to assert that today's "youngsters" are too stupid to turn 
>into COBOL programmers?  Well, dang it, sonny - the same thing was said 
>about us back in the day - and see how that turned out.
>
>Tom Puddicombe
>Mainframe Performance & Capacity Planning
>CSC
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>From:   Steve Comstock <[email protected]>
>To:    [email protected]
>Date:   05/23/2012 05:55 PM
>Subject:        Re: Brain drain: Where Cobol systems go from here
>Sent by:        IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]>
>
>
>
>On 5/23/2012 3:39 PM, Roberts, John J wrote:
>>> When the last Cobol programmers walk out the door, so may 50 years
>> of business processes within the software they created. Will you be
>> ready?
>>
>>
>>
>>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9227263/The_Cobol_Brain_Drain?
>> taxonomyId=154
>>
>> Ed, Interesting article and fairly accurate IMO.
>>
>> This is what I can foresee happening:
>> (1) Many companies will try to offshore their COBOL application support. 
>But
>this won't work so well because it is hard enough to understand these 
>systems
>without facing the complications of language and arcane terminology. And 
>the
>young ones back in Bangalore will want to do Java, not COBOL.
>
>> (2) Other companies will want to recruit overseas, either for CS grads 
>that
>they can train, or for those few that are willing to invest in COBOL 
>learning if
>that is what it takes to punch that H1B ticket. But even so, once here 
>they are
>all going to be looking to do something else, not COBOL. So that company 
>that
>recruits and trains a COBOL resource is going to be looking for a 
>replacement
>within a couple years.
>
>> (3) Efforts to train new young COBOL resources are going to flop, as the
>article mentions. Again, everyone expects COBOL to be a career dead-end 
>once
>beyond a 5 to 10 year transition period.
>
>Not everyone.
>
>> (4) In the end, US companies are going to be forced to pay a premium 
>just to
>hang on to their old-timers long enough to buy time to implement that new 
>ERP
>package or new custom application. The ones that will be successful doing 
>this
>are going to be the ones that accommodate their senior developer's 
>desires: lots
>of time off, telecommuting, job sharing, benefits, etc.
>>
>> John
>
>
>Ahem. We can help.
>
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>visibility to training directors and above for most companies,
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>
>
>So, everybody: help us and your company out: find out
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>
>
>
>There seems to be a resurgence in attention being paid
>to the mainframe, to z/OS, and to COBOL. For good reason:
>
>* z/OS is still the premier operating system in terms
>   of performance, security, and business services
>
>* COBOL has been modernized to work with new technologies:
>
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>
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>
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>       include the requested information
>
>       - can even serve up audio, video, and other
>         multimedia files
>
>* COBOL is a clear, understandable language that is easy
>   to code, debug, and maintain
>
>* COBOL code performs well, with no need for the overhead
>   of Java, for example
>
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
>
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>
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>
>
>-- 
>
>Kind regards,
>
>-Steve Comstock
>The Trainer's Friend, Inc.
>
>303-355-2752
>http://www.trainersfriend.com
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