Agreed - We run a batch job **nightly** to pull back all PTF's that we hadn't yet received as well as hold data for each IBM Global zone we have. That way we have all maintenance for all products already in the system, can report on what is out there un fixed, as well as what is waiting to go on. No more running chains and downloading lists of PTF's multiple times. We can then choose what aging process to use when Apply time comes along.
Jerry Whitteridge Lead Systems Programmer Safeway Inc. 925 951 4184 If you feel in control you just aren't going fast enough. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 12:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Preventive z/OS maintenance, was: EPSPT vs. FIXCAT I agree with Radoslaw. Quite often, I am forced to plan for the unexpected, especially with IBM.DEVICE.* and IBM.COEXISTENCE.* FIXCAT categories, because there have been times when I have been the last to find out about new DASD or other equipment hitting the floor that may have pre-requisite maintenance. I will always apply all available maintenance for all installed products that I feel has "seasoned" sufficiently based on my expected maintenance cycle timeline. Picking and choosing what maintenance to apply will typically get you into trouble at some point especially if you have limited opportunities to implement said maintenance. If you have a weekly window, then you may operate on a different set of rules I guess. _________________________________________________________________ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services [email protected] 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717 -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 3:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Preventive z/OS maintenance, was: EPSPT vs. FIXCAT Jürgen In my humble opinion every piece of software installed should serviced, so I sustain the idea of aplying all PTFs. Disclaimers (exceptions): - One can have some software installed, but not used. - I'm not talking about PTFs in error, etc. - "Up to date" does not necessarily mean "from yesterday", service can be "seasoned" (cured? matured?). Regards -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland P.S. I'd like to hear more about this, you have my e-mail address. W dniu 2012-05-17 17:38, Jürgen Kehr pisze: > Hi Radoslaw, > > in your note you mentioned the idea to apply all (installable) PTFs. > This idea leads me to the reason for opening this topic. I'm involved > in an IBM project for preventive maintenance packages named CPMz. One > major idea behind this project is "to apply as few PTFs as possible, > but as many PTFs as needed". In order to determine which PTFs are > really needed in a specific environment, besides other subjects we > include FIXCAT data. At that point one of our customers asked me where > to find the CICS FIXCAT data. Because there is no specific category, I > thought that there are no such FIXCATs for CICS, but now I know from > the answers here where to find them. > > BTW: For this offering CPMz we although have a customer in Poland, if > you like to hear more about this topic, you may give me a personal note. > > > Am 17.05.2012 14:59, schrieb R.S.: >> W dniu 2012-05-17 14:29, Kurt Quackenbush pisze: >> [...] >> >> Stupid question: >> Applying service usually require IPL, which is some inconvenience >> even in Sysplex environment (for sure it is in monoplex). >> PTF usually require to review some actions, dependencies, etc. - >> everything with HOLDSYS(). >> With some exceptions applying service is not single little PTF, it;s >> not daily activity. It's rather some session - mass update, infrequent. >> >> So, it's reaaly good opportunity to apply all the PTFs, especially >> those from RSU. >> >> So the question is: Why doesn't one receive "full pack" of service? >> ShopzSeries allows to use SMPE reports to order only missing PTFs and >> only to the products installed. >> >> Isn't it good idea to have all the components up to date? >> -- >> Radoslaw Skorupka >> Lodz, Poland >> >> > -- Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wyłącznie do użytku służbowego adresata. Odbiorcą może być jedynie jej adresat z wyłączeniem dostępu osób trzecich. Jeżeli nie jesteś adresatem niniejszej wiadomości lub pracownikiem upoważnionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, że jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne działanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i może być karalne. 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