Al,
Thanks for the reply and the confirmation that there GCL and IRD don't
cooperate when the really should. 
We have sufficient CPU capacity in the boxes, so in a non softcapped
situation, IRD has nothing to do, while in a softcapped situation it
does nothing.

The solution I am thinking of is splitting the Capacity Group, but this
results in less optimal (i.e. higher) MSU consumption, so higher monthly
bills, which could have been prevented by IRD, but IRD is not allowed to
do so. Weird situation...

Another point: 
in a Capacity Goup, WLM distrubutes resourses over the LPARs, based on
the needs of the LPARs. If the LPARs are softcapped, PR/SM can only
apply the Weights, but WLM will ensure its caculated MSUs go to each
LPAR, by either applying 'phantom load' or 'pattern capping'. I suppose
this moves resources from LPARs that need less than their (weight)share
to LPARs that need more than their share. But I suppose this will not
move resources from lo-prio batch in LPAR1 to hi-prio CICS in LPAR2.
This is what IRD does and what I need.

Kees.



"Al Sherkow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> Kees --
> 
> IRD Weight Management is used at some of my client sites. I think it
is very useful. For a review that capabilities this feature enables to
WLM to shift "weight" between LPARs in the same SYSPLEX on a single CPC
based on importance. For example if importance=3 work in LPAR A is
exceeding it's goal, and importance=2 work in LPAR B is missing it's
goal then WLM will move some "weight" from LPAR A to LPAR B to help out
the importance=2 work.
> 
> Seems very useful to me, but I'm a consulting and I'm not running a
data center. 
> 
> On to LPAR Group Capacity Limit. Another nice feature, requested by
customers for a long time and introduced with z/OS 1.8. LPAR GCL is also
"managed" by WLM. This capability manages the 4 hour rolling average of
a group of LPARs to not exceed a customer set limit. This capability
uses the LPAR's weight settings as the indication of how the LPARs
should participate in the group. 
> 
> However as Kees wrote in the original post:
> 
> The docs mention "As WLM is responsible for
> both WLM LPAR Weight Management and 
> soft-capping, it will be aware when an LP is 
> being soft-capped, and will not make any 
> further adjustments to the weight of the LP 
> until the soft-cap is removed." 
> 
> This is a problem, it is when the GCL is being enforced that a site
would most like IRD LPAR Weight Management to kick in and start
redistributing the limited CPU resource based on importance of the
workloads rather than the initially set weights of the LPARs. 
> 
> IBM does not want to fix this issue. I think it has been entered as a
"SHARE requirement".
>  
> So some sites have decided not to use GCL because they view "IRD LPAR
Weight Management" as more useful. Other sites have made the decision
the other way. Still other sites are using both while understanding this
limitation. 
> 
> Al Sherkow, I/S Management Strategies, Ltd.
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