You are right. I stand corrected.

> They could implement a different library of function calls, but of course
at that point none of the Java programs expecting Oracle's library would
work.

I wonder if Google raised a "merger" defense: if there is only one way to do
something, you can't protect it under copyright. Expression and function
"merge" and function wins out.

Charles

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
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Subject: Re: Programming languages can't have copyright protection, EU court
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On Thu, 3 May 2012 06:43:45 -0700, Charles Mills <[email protected]> wrote:

>Right, Walt. Their claims fly in the face of precedent as I understand it.
>
>They are trying to claim than any implementation of Java is a 
>derivative work (see earlier posts in this thread) of the Java 
>specifications. I predict -- and hope -- they lose.

No, I don't -think- that's what they're claiming. The Java language is
rather straightforward. But knowing the -language- doesn't really help you
write Java programs. Most programs have to rely on the library of function
calls that Sun provided, and Oracle seems to be claiming that the library is
separate from the language, and that the library calls (the API) are a "look
and feel" expression that is copyrightable. So anyone is free to make a Java
interpreter or compiler, but they can't implement the same library without
duplicating Oracle's look-and-feel.

They could implement a different library of function calls, but of course at
that point none of the Java programs expecting Oracle's library would work.

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