On Tue, 1 May 2012 13:29:06 -0500, Mark Zelden <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Tue, 1 May 2012 10:28:33 -0500, Tom Marchant <[email protected]> 
>wrote:
>
>>IMO, most batch should be run in discretionary.  The exception is
>>workload with turnaround requirements.  These should be met with
>>response time goals.  A "penalty" service class that is "just barely
>>above discretionary" makes no sense at all to me.
>>
>>When WLM has plenty of discretionary work to do, it is able to get
>>the most work out of the system.
>>
>
>1) As someone already mentioned, there are legitimate applications
>where batch is every bit as important as online / interactive work.
>If you system is running at or near 100%, your not going to get
>that batch work done at all, or not within SLAs if it is discretionary.

Agreed.  That's why I wrote "Most batch" and "The exception is 
workload with turnaround requirements"

>2) While your idea may work fine in a 100% production LPAR only,
>most shops have LPARs where there is a mixture.   If all batch
>is discretionary, what prioritizes production over test / development
>batch?

I didn't say "All" batch is discretionary.  Also, not all production batch 
has the same requirements.

>I agree that test batch should usually be set to discretionary.   I say
>usually because I'm sure there are some posts in the archives where
>people have removed discretionary and given it a low importance
>like 5 - and low velocity.    You can search the archives for their
>reasons.

I don't like velocity goals except for long running address spaces.  If I 
was going to do that, I would set a low response time goal.  For 
example, in our environment, the vast majority of development jobs end 
in considerably less than a minute after being submitted.  In this 
environment, if I wanted to set a low goal like you suggest, it might be 
50% complete in less than 15 minutes.

Remember that discretionary work is managed like a Mean Time To Wait 
group.  IMO low priority work is managed better in discretionary than with 
either a low velocity goal or a low response time goal.

-- 
Tom Marchant

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