John,

I am sorry Chris wasn't picking on you, it's my Irish moxey. 
John, IBM manuals are usually an adventure until you know the product involved.
I worked VTAM for a long time took me forever to go thru the SNA formats, until 
I started working for a software company doing LU 6.2 file transfer, then I got 
good at it ...like reading traces and dumps every day...bottom line, exposure 
and aptitude...

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Scott Ford
Senior Systems Engineer
www.identityforge.com



On Feb 21, 2012, at 7:24 PM, John Gilmore <[email protected]> wrote:

> The heavy irony in the rhetorical question
> 
> | Why did I think that there might be a clue to the
> | "C/C++ signature CSECT" in the C/C++ documentation?
> 
> is understandable.  Moreover, Chris Mason's manner does annoy some
> people; but it would be unwise to ignore the substantive content of
> his posts for this reason.
> 
> Things do not always appear where one would like to find them in IBM
> publications; and his example is a valuable illustration of how to
> find them when they do not.
> 
> Moreover, a good ROT to keep in mind is that things not found in the
> IBM manuals for a particular statement-level procedural language may
> well be found in its LE manuals and in particular in the ILC
> discussions in these LE manuals, which contain useful detail that can
> be found nowhere else.
> 
> Moreover again, this is unsurprising.  It is easy, because it is made
> easy, for one C function to call another C function.  It s not so easy
> to induce Java to call C successfully.  To do this one needs to know
> more, and that more is just what is addressed in ILC discussions.
> 
> John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA
> 
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