It works the same in ACF2.  The passticket generator has no idea that the 
logonid is restricted (or protected) so a passticket is generated.  However, 
passwords and by extension passtickets, are not allowed for these logons and so 
the request is appropriately rejected.  Set a complex non-expiring password on 
the logonid and then use passtickets to your heart's content.

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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Tom Ambros
Sent: Tuesday, 07 February 2012 15:34
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: RACF Passticket: password required on userid?

I submitted an SR and the word I get from RACF L2 is that RACF simply 
won't evaluate a protected userid, logon is rejected unconditionally.   I 
understand that this is documented as a basic principle.  I am going to have to 
puzzle over the implications of allowing a protected userid to use passtickets, 
I am not immediately seeing what exposure would be introduced.  At any rate, I 
have what it takes to proceed.  Thanks... 

Thomas Ambros
Operating Systems and Connectivity Engineering
518-436-6433





From:   Charles Mills <[email protected]>
To:     [email protected]
Date:   02/07/2012 17:27
Subject:        Re: RACF Passticket: password required on userid?
Sent by:        IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]>



I am not familiar with IKE or NSS but I am something of a PassTicket expert 
IMHO.

PassTickets are essentially an alternative to passwords. They are 
password-like; they do not depend on passwords. No password is input to the 
algorithm. The closest thing is the "stored secure application key" (name from 
memory) which is 16 hex digits. There are three inputs:

- stored secure application key
- current time of day
- application name

In my experience the second is a small gotcha and the third is a big gotcha.
Are there two systems in your picture? Are both of their clocks set to Zulu 
time, and fairly accurately?

Are you *sure* you have the application name correct. It is a HUGE gotcha.

A wild guess is the reason it works with a password is because the password 
itself is being used for successful authentication, not the PassTicket.
Well, you say that's not so. I don't know.

Charles

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Tom Ambros
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 1:50 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RACF Passticket: password required on userid?

Forgive me for posting this here, it belongs on the RACF list I am sure but I 
do not have that address handy to register. 

It may be a simple enough question that it can be answered here. 

I am attempting to use the passticket authentication method for the IKE client 
to NSS.  If I define a password on the client, no problem.  IKE establishes a 
connection to the NSS task, I verify I use the Passticket: 
RACFQUAL 132:SUCC INIT USING PASSTICKET from an MXG SAS interpretation of SMF 
80. 

If I remove the password from the client, ICH408I Invalid Password.  I find no 
documentation that indicates it is input to the algorithm nor any documentation 
that a user employing passtickets requires a password.  Why is a password 
necessary? 
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