Hi John, 


The REFVTOC subcommand is a refresh so that the additional space on the volume 
will be 'seen' and datasets can be stored in it.  If the VTOC, INDEX, and VVDS 
are already large enough, then the same would be fine. 



http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r11/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zos.r11.ickug00/refmin.htm
 

" After expanding a volume size using dynamic volume expansion, you must use 
the REFORMAT command to rebuild the VTOC and Index structures to accommodate 
the additional space on the volume."  DEVMAN can also be used.  Follow the 
link, there is more info on the page. 



I didn't specify a VTOC, INDEX, or VVDS size because that really depends on the 
number and type of datasets you put on the volume.  If you are simply moving 
existing volumes from 3390/3 to 3390/9, you might want to size at 3 times 
larger all around.  Also consider that it might be easier to init the volume 
with the appropriate size VTOC, INDEX, and VTOC first and then move data.  If 
the VTOC or the VVDS are too small, allocations will stop when either is full.  
If the INDEX is too small, it will be diabled. 



I cannot offer any suggestions about DSS options - I use CA-Disk and FDR.  


HTH 


Linda 

----- Original Message -----


From: "John Dawes" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2011 11:43:28 AM 
Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT COPY COMMAND - DFDSS 

Linda, 
  
Thanks for the feedback.  Yes, I did have a note to expand the VTOC once I had 
performed the copy.  I noticed that in your example you don't stipulate the 
size of the VTOC.  Is that okay? 


________________________________ 
From: Linda Mooney <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Friday, 4 November 2011 8:31 PM 
Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT COPY COMMAND - DFDSS 

Hi John, 



There are a couple of additional things to consider related to your inquiry. It 
may be that you are already familar with them.  


Since you are moving from 3390/3 to 3390/9, are the VTOC and VVDS large 
enough?  



Once you have moved a full volume 3390/3, along with its volser,  to a 3390/9, 
check the amount of free space on the 3390/9volume.  It may show the same 
amount of free space as the source 3390/3 volume.  In that case, you would need 
to refresh the VTOC.  



//ICKDSF    EXEC PGM=ICKDSF,PARM='NOREPLYU'              
//SYSPRINT  DD SYSOUT=*                                  
//DD0          DD UNIT=SYSALLDA,DISP=SHR,VOL=SER=volser  
//SYSIN        DD *                                      
 REFORMAT VERIFY(volser) DDNAME(DD0) REFVTOC             
/*                                                       
   

HTH, 



Linda 


----- Original Message ----- 


From: "John Dawes" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 6:05:42 AM 
Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT COPY COMMAND - DFDSS 

Barry, 
  
I am copying each volume 1 for 1 i.e. I will be copying (4) 3390-3 to (4) 
3390-9.  Sorry, I should have posed my question more clearly. 


________________________________ 
From: "Schwarz, Barry A" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, 3 November 2011 3:42 PM 
Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT COPY COMMAND - DFDSS 

My 1.11 copy of the DSS Storage Admin manual states that FULL is the default.  
Does your manual say something different? 

Are you copying each 3390-3 to a different 3390-9 or all four to a single 
3390-9?  If the latter, you might be better off with a dataset copy specifying 
all datasets and the four volumes rather than four separate volume copies. 

> -----Original Message----- 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of John Dawes 
> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 8:35 AM 
> To: [email protected] 
> Subject: QUESTION ABOUT COPY COMMAND - DFDSS 
> 
> G'Day, 
> 
> We are in the process of freeing a controller and I need to move 4 volumes 
> off it.  I plan to used DFDSS to copy the volume to a new adress.  The 
> source is a 3390-3 and the target is 3390-9.  My question is do I need to 
> add the parm FULL along with the COPY and ADMIN ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP 
> COPYVOLID PURGE  statements?  In the past years I did not use the FULL 
> command and it worked okay.  Is there a danger not using it? 

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