Just a secondary thought here. It really gets messy under VM (IMO) especially in an outsourcing situation. I do not think that it is unreasonable to have say 10 copies of MVS running (even different releases) that adds to the complexiy as we all know. Even a list of Z capable machines doesn't tell you much as again with VM it blows any number out of the ball park.
I am not sure any numbers you can come up with would tell a story (thats accurate). I suspect even IBM (in some cases) does not have a clue as to what is running on any given machine. Especially in the "sensitive areas" of the government. I knew of one place that was forbidden to call IBM for software service. I know IBM has people that have the right clearances (heck I know/knew (he has passed away) one that worked in one of the basements of the Whitehouse and he couldn't tell me too much what he was working on) He may have told me too much just about the existance but we both had clearences at the time. Ed ________________________________ From: Ian <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, June 3, 2011 11:26:40 AM Subject: Re: We list every company in the world that has a mainframe computer Ed, I don't think that any one outside of IBM will ever get close to having a full and complete list. But I will take a shot at it realizing that it will never be perfect.. I am sure that there will be shops out there that do not want to be mapped, but my intentions is not to "out" them. This is purely a list to help potential jobseekers in there search for available positions. That is why I include a link to the career sites on the entries. The other problem that I see with this list, and any other list, is that it will never be complete. With mergers and acquisitions, mainframes being phased and outsourcing happening all the time it will always be a moving target. But that is even more of a reason to attempt a list like this because it is these actions that makes us loose jobs and I hope that this list will be able to help. Thanks Ian On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Ed Gould <[email protected]> wrote: > IAN: > > I wish you luck but honestly do not think you will come close. I am sure > IBM > doesn't want a really complete list out there. > If anyone would come close it would be an interesting map. > With employers being so heavy handed, I would expect an inner office memo > to > come out and indicate that NO ONE should tell any one about the > installation. > > Off the top of my head they would be worried about head hunters coming in. > I > guess the secondary might be issues with security and maybe a few side > issues. > > I once worked at a place they had two locations and each had two computers > (although from little we were told) only 2 licenses for the company the > others > were "DR". > > I am not sure how you would count that place(s) physical cpu's or licenses. > Certainly not by personnel as the second place only had operators (no > systems > people). They recent changed and they still have two locations but I have > no > idea as to physical CPU's. > > ED > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
