Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >>BTW: SDSF, JESSPOOL and OPERCMDS reliationships are not easy to understand.
Radoslaw is a master of words despite one spelling error above. ;-) John Mattson wrote: >Radoslaw !!! Your statement is so eloquent in its simplicity and accuracy. His English is not his first language, but he is still a master! ;-D PS, Radoslaw, I usually don't like to discuss persons, but here I would like to make an exception if you don't care. ;-) > I have been trying for weeks now just to implement the most basic SDSF with SAF. This can be challenging. Trust me on this. You are not alone. >I have used the basic setup in the manual with SYSPROG, OPS, and USER groups and I have it mostly working. Get your ISFPARMS working with RACF classes SDSF, OPERCMDS and JESSPOOL turned off. And get your TSOAUTH defined properly according to your ISFPARMS. Then move on activating one class at a time. Activate your classes and adding most generic profiles first and then adding more and more profiles. Entries in RACF GAT may or may not complicate your RACF setup, because access is allowed, but NOT denied. One thing to remember, you will need to fly out of SDSF and come back into it to pick up the latest RACF changes. Then you will have grey hairs left for retirement. ;-) One last thing, SDSF pre-populate your SDSF screens according to the RACF profiles setup when you enter SDSF. Depending on the RACF class, you may or may not get any ICH408I messages. >One thing would help is IBM would have separate sections, or manuals, to address implementation with a) ISFPARMS + SAF b) ISFGRP macros +SAF and avoid mixing the two. The manual constantly switches between various "modes" of implementation in a most confusing manner. Of course. This is about flexibility and backward compatibility. A PITA, yes. You can perhaps write a message to SDSF manual authors. Disclaimer: I never worked with ISFGRP macros. No need for it sofar. About your subject line: The default behaviour of SDSF is to allow owners to do whatever with their own jobs. Look in RACF-L for examples for lots of SDSF + RACF setup questions. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
