Off topic may be OK sometimes, but personal (assaults/comments/diatribes/etc) 
should be left for other venues.

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Eric Bielefeld
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 11:44 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: List Civility

Steve,

I've been a member of this list for well over 10 years.  I think its always 
been as you so eloquently described it below.  There are a lot of good tips and 
usable bits of information every day, but there is also a lot of junk.  Some of 
the off topic stuff I find more interesting than some of the other stuff, but 
that's just my opinion.

--
Eric Bielefeld
Systems Programmer


---- Steve Dover <[email protected]> wrote: 
> Can't we all just get along?  Over the last 6 months, there have been 
> a number of rants on this list that just seem to keep growing.  They 
> morph into beasts with no heart or soul.  There has been name calling 
> and childish verbal attacks that have no place in a list comprised of 
> 'adults'.  Sure we all have our opinions, and in a place when asked 
> our opinions can be presented.  I feel as if I am not one of the 
> 'smart' people on this list, but on occasion I have been able to share my 
> insight and wisdom for things I had implemented in the past.
> I don't usually respond to things, as there are plenty of responses 
> for questions raised.  There are times when I have had to use Google 
> or Wikipedia to understand a post, because my vocabulary is not what some 
> peoples are.
> I think it is time for us all to take a deep breath, relax and 
> remember what this list was created for.  I agree with the recent comment 
> about humor/humour.
> Different parts of the world, different cultures and different 
> lifestyles make things hard to translate.  In the US, we can't even 
> agree on what to call a carbonated, non-alcoholic beverage.  Is it 
> really a pop, soda or Coke?  I am sorry to ramble here, but I love the 
> resources this list makes available for me.
> I gleen bits and pieces nearly every day that make my life easier.
> 
> If you care to bash me for this, go ahead.  My skin is thick from 
> years of poor choices, but do it offline, so we don't morph into 
> another long series of rants that show our lack of civility.
> Steve

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