No, the rename is done after the copy.

We never IPL the staging volumes either and the clone process are
full-volumes dumps, using FDR of course, from the staging to the alternate
resvols.   Hence, I need to rename any zFS files that are copied by
replacing the "STAGING" qualifier to a alternate resvol name.   Now, since
the ROOT file is too big for non-SMS staging volumes, I'll have to do the
same thing several times for whatever zFS files I leave separate from the
combined ROOT - just some extra coding.  This same cloning job also creates
a SMP/E target environment for the alternate resvols in case of an emergency
fix that doesn't have time for the cloning process.

I just like to leave any "system" related zFS on one of our non-SMS staging
volumes, and ultimately, on a second resvol, so the Storage Group doesn't
have to get involved.
For many reasons, including "having enough space for maintenance", some
"regular" z/OS system residence data sets share the second staging volume
with the zFS(s).
I don't see any reason for treating data sets related to OMVS any
differently from the rest of the z/OS libraries.

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Arthur Gutowski <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 15:53:29 -0800, Guy Gardoit <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >[...] I just do full volume copies of the staging resvols to the
> >alternates and then do a series of IDCAMS commands to "rename" the staging
> >$VERSION ROOT file to one with the first resvol as the last qualifier.
> >Works simply and very well.
>
> So the staging files have to be renamed to what will be the alternate names
> just prior to the copy?  Just trying to get my head around this - I feel
> like I'm
> missing something in your process.
>
> We do it the opposite way here, we rename the destination HFS' on the
> alternate volumes after the copy, so we have to use IEHPROGM.  The source
> HFS' are left cataloged and intact.
>
> Thanks,
> Art Gutowski
> Ford Motor Company
>
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