Dear Inder Could not agree more with you more , whole concept of nationalism stinks , so many atrocities and human rights violations have been there in the name of nationalism
in soidarity Kamayani On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Inder Salim <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Ghulam > > "I am doing a service to my nation," > > obviously i am responding back because you responded to what others have > written about your post. > > that is ok, you have right to post, whatever you want, > > but what is this " service to Nation" why this burden on ur fragile > shoulders > please free yourself > > Nationalism has a very limited role in the development of a > society.Nationalism like Nuclear power generating plants can create more > havoc in no time than what they contribute to humanity. Better we realize > what is primordial in our instincts and we perhaps survive because we have > something deeper to share in our hearts. Nationalism is actually sowing the > seeds of hate for those who live outside the boarders. > > well one can talk about it, and you also have ur points to defend, but we > are not here to outwit each other, > just with love > > for love which connects > is > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Rakesh Iyer <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Dear Ghulam jee >> >> In case the Muslim community is having bias, let them also know the fact >> that Zaheer Khan is the second highest wicket-taker in the WC amongst all >> teams, and we all are proud of him for having done so. The exceptional >> skills he has shown in the WC and the way the bowling is dependent on him >> and he manages it, is something which only great bowlers can manage. And for >> me, he's a Muslim, but more importantly he's one among the 'Men in Blue' out >> to win the World Cup, so his Islamic identity is irrelevant. And forget >> Sachin, Yuvraj or Harbhajan, if we win this WC, it will be due to Zaheer >> Khan. >> >> As for Yusuf, his home is in Baroda, but even then I can understand the >> disappointment. And I hope he can play in the next few games left and do >> something great to win it for us. But communal discrimination must be judged >> on a case-to-case basis, and the argument being given neither has any proof >> nor any logic. Because by that logic, even Zaheer Khan shouldn't play >> matches in Gujarat. >> >> That's all I wish to say. >> >> Rakesh >> >> >> On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Ghulam Muhammed < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I am doing a service to my nation, by reporting how masses feel. So keep >>> an open mind. I need not necessarily agree, but I must let others into >>> making judgements free of bias and prejudices, even if some prejudiced news >>> is presented for comments and oversight. >>> >>> !. Cricket is not only for sportsmen, politicians and elites. It is the >>> masses that feel strongly involved. >>> >>> 2.Sports are the only field, besides films, that Muslims be visible on >>> the basis of merit. That public visibility gives the Muslim Masses a sense >>> of indentity and belonging. >>> >>> 3. Technically dropping of Yusuf Patel from Ahmedabad game was sound. >>> However, as Patel belongs to Gujarat and Gujarati Muslims do identify with >>> him and his brother, it is natural for them to be looking forward to his >>> play at Ahmedabad. When he was dropped, they had to show their >>> disappointment. >>> >>> 4. Those who jump to conclusion that India is cleansed of all communal >>> discriminations are living in fools paradise and not in India. >>> >>> Ghulam Muhammed, Mumbai >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 10:23 AM, BRP Bhaskar <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> *How seriously must members of this group take the words of Mr Ghulam >>>> Mohammed who apparently imagines that when he is sore the "Muslims (of >>>> India) are sore"?* >>>> *BRP Bhaskar* >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Kamayani <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Here's a nice article by a friend about indian cricket. It says all the >>>>> things a lot of us wish to say. *And anyone who thinks it's just 'a >>>>> game', please do not read.* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://uchandra.blogspot.com/2011/03/ugliness-of-indian-cricket-fan.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <http://uchandra.blogspot.com/2011/03/ugliness-of-indian-cricket-fan.html> >>>>> On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Rakesh Iyer >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> This is one of the most stupid things I have ever read, considering >>>>>> that the best bowler in the Indian cricket team, i.e. Zaheer Khan is >>>>>> also a >>>>>> Muslim, and he is playing the WC with a vigor rarely seen in other >>>>>> bowlers. >>>>>> Does that mean that Harbhajan (Sikh) and Piyush Chawla (Hindu) are >>>>>> traitors >>>>>> because of their religion. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Ajay <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> It is extremely stupid & communal to have such thoughts & to bring >>>>>>> them up in a forum that is devoted to human rights for all & secular >>>>>>> thought . There are many a forums where such people go after each >>>>>>> other . Is best to get your fun there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dhoni did explain his choice of players for the day & they did a good >>>>>>> job. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Muslims need not see the persecution complex everywhere , in this >>>>>>> country every one has many a legitimate grouse & can post such >>>>>>> incidents daily. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "humanrights movement" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/humanrights-movement?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Rakesh Krishnamoorthy Iyer >>>>>> MM06B019 >>>>>> Final Year, Dual Degree Student >>>>>> Dept. of Metallurgical & Materials Engineering >>>>>> IIT Madras, Chennai - 600036 >>>>>> Phone no: +91-9444073884 >>>>>> E-mail ID: [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "humanrights movement" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/humanrights-movement?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Adv Kamayani Bali Mahabal >>>>> +919820749204 >>>>> skype-lawyercumactivist >>>>> * >>>>> * >>>>> *"Nobody is giving up violence. 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