Mr Ghulam Mohammed is labouring under a misunderstanding. I have not questioned his right to form an opinion and express it. What I have questioned is the rationality of his position. His rejoinder only compounds the irrationality. I do not know Seema Chishti. I do not also know who she is married to. All that is immaterial to the points I have made.
Apparently Mr Ghulam Mohammed wants only those belonging to the Muslim mainstream of his conception to report on the activities of Muslim organizations. If this argument is extended, Advani and Modi will have the right to decide who should report on the activities of Sangh Parivar. This is preposterous. Let me repeat: It is sickening to find such material in a human rights group. Muslims suffer serious disabilities in our society and polity and Muslim organizations are entitled to build common platforms with other sections of society who too suffer similar disabilities. However, when we discuss individual political / religious organizations, polarization cannot be avoided. BRP Bhaskar On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Niloufer Bhagwat <[email protected]>wrote: > The Jammat-e-ulema-e-Hind did not ask for a high level inquiry from the > Home Ministry into > the assassination of Advocate Shahid Azmi whose services were exploited by > them there > is a silence on this assassination by the organization who ought to have > insisted on a special > investigation .Nothing has been done by any of the organizations with whom > Shahid Azmi > worked , he was led to his slaughter and then discarded in death . > > Niloufer Bhagwat > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Niloufer Bhagwat <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Friday, February 25, 2011 8:06 AM > *Subject:* Re: [humanrights-movement:3797] Jamaate-e-Islami-e Hind tests > watersto launch its own party - By Seema Chishti - The Indian Express, > Mumbai > > It is necessary to recall the role played by the Jamaate-e-Islami during > the freedom movement and its role in the > Kashmir Valley to formulate a correct political opinion . When the worst > pogroms were taking place against minorities > in the country with fascist policies in place under corporate control of > vital regions , none of the organizations professing political Islam in > India were able to play any role at all , neither did they desire to > analyze the real reasons behind the cruel attacks on minorities and > economically weaker sections .There is a concern that unless the young > Muslim youth are incorporated into religious politics they may play a vital > role in the new democratic awakening sweeping one country after another . > > Religious divide and rule requires political parties of the religious > majority and religious minority and most of them have their roots in > Colonial India . It is not surprising that members of the Muslim brotherhood > are based in London and Osama bin Laden had purchased valuable properties in > Britain . The unfortunate use of political Islam as a safety valve for > Imperialism and Capitalism cannot be underestimated , we have seen their > misuse in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan among other countries and the most > horrific example is British India . > > Till to-day even organizations like Jammat-e- ulema -e-Hind who exploited > the professional services of Advocate Shahid Azmi from a lower middle class > family have requested the Union Home Ministry for a high level investigation > into his assassination just as a similar investigation is required into the > assassination of the late Joint Commissioner of Police , Mr.Hemant Karkare , > Mr.Kamat and other police officers and policemen at VT and Cama Hospital > premises and other sites . > > Our first loyalty is to humanity , everything else comes thereafter . > Religion is not religion unless it is used in the service of humanity as a > whole not a sectarian denomination , a hungry man is hungry irrespective of > whether he/she is a Hindu or a Muslim . It is when minorities were > collectively singled out for collective murders that voices had to be raised > and the fascist political policies of corporate houses which includes > foreign and Indian Transnational Companies and Banks had to be analyzed . > > If the East India Company and its activities in India , Asia and other > countries is forgotten , no one can move forward to a better political > system . Not a single religious philosophy no matter how spiritual is > adequate to enable us to understand economic phenomena in the 21st Century . > Religion is concerned with the divinity and philosophy and ethics which has > its own private space , whereas economic and political events require a > dissection of economic and political decision making and whether they meet > the needs of all sections of society or whether the profits are restricted > to a few . > > The Radia tapes were not about religion they disclosed that most political > parties were directly controlled by corporate interests. There is no > religious answer to this phenomena of financial institutions , Banks and > Corporations bankrupting national exchequers of G7 countries among others > and reducing Afghanistan and Afpak to a Narco state with the drug trade > being laundered into bankrupt western financial institutions and banks even > as millions are affected by unemployment and loss of social security . We in > India are of course used to this situation . However soon hunger will stalk > the land , may be we will ask the hungry to pray to God so that they can > speedily go to heaven or be reborn in better conditions !!!!! > > This is not what the Egyptian people did !!!!!!!! The Arab uprisings will > continue and Ulemas will not be able to stop them , unless a better economic > and political system takes the place of dictatorships and monarchies . > Similarly one country after another will see uprisings and no religious > party will be able to prevent it as the root cause of the present situation > is not religion but the existing economic , political and social systems > reeking of injustice . > > > > Niloufer Bhagwat > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* BRP Bhaskar <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Thursday, February 24, 2011 4:40 PM > *Subject:* Re: [humanrights-movement:3797] Jamaate-e-Islami-e Hind tests > watersto launch its own party - By Seema Chishti - The Indian Express, > Mumbai > > I do not find anything in this report to justify the observation that the > reporter "is not necessarly enamoured of either any religion or Islam in > particular". Assuming it is so, how is it anybody else's business if she is > not enamoured of any religion? I do not also see any basis for accusation > that this is a hatchet job. It's sickening to find such material in this > group. > BRP Bhaskar > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:53 PM, Ghulam Muhammed < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> *Seema Chishti, an Indian Express correspondent with a Muslim name, is >> not necessarily enamored of either any religion in general and Islam in >> particular. Belonging to Muslim community, she is awarded the job by >> editors, to carry out their official policy ( a hatchet job?) on how to >> report on Muslim affairs in India. The usual reporting is always colored by >> Left Liberal disdain for religion and Islam. In her following report, she is >> openly critical of the audacity of a 'Muslim' group to come forward with its >> ideological baggage and still trying to fit into the pseudo-secular Indian >> political arena, which is increasingly turning to be dominated by an >> aggressive Hindutva Right that wants a Hindu Rashtra, denying any space for >> others. By her reporting, she is directly helping the Hindutva to claim the >> entire field for itself. The bogey of Islam is a very convenient instrument >> for India's English media, to inject hate and derision for any Muslim >> initiative to join the Indian mainstream, to ensure Brahmin monopoly on the >> levers of power, that had kept the lopsided development of India, always >> favoring the oligarchs and higher castes. >> >> Ghulam Muhammed, Mumbai >> * >> ----------------------- >> >> http://www.indianexpress.com/news/jamaat-tests-waters-to-launch-its-own-party/754013/0 >> >> *Thu, 24 Feb 2011 >> >> * <http://www.indianexpress.com/> >> >> >> Jamaat tests waters to launch its own party[The Mumbai print edition has >> the full name of Jamaat as ' Jamaate-Islami-e Hind' in the headline spread >> out across the entire 7-column page report.GM] >> >> >> *Seema Chishti <http://www.indianexpress.com/columnist/seemachishti/> ** >> >> Tags : percentage of Muslims, Jamaat-e-Islami-e Hind, Islam in the >> subcontinent in 1941* >> >> *Posted: Thu Feb 24 2011, 00:17 hrs ** >> >> New Delhi: >> >> **In three of the five states going to the polls in weeks — Assam, Kerala >> and West Bengal — the percentage of Muslims, after Jammu and Kashmir, is the >> highest in the country. To tap this political space, the Jamaat-e-Islami-e >> Hind, the organisation established for the propagation and “reform” of Islam >> in the subcontinent in 1941, is planning to launch its political party. * >> >> *Tentatively called the “Welfare Party,” it is learnt that senior Jamaat >> members have been touring not just the poll-bound states but UP, Bihar and >> Maharashtra, too, to test the waters. While discussions about the need for a >> party have been on for two years, the formal launch is expected soon — some >> say even as early as next month. * >> >> *A six-page note prepared by the Jamaat and accessed by The Indian >> Express details the objectives and the remit of the proposed party. * >> >> *Jamaat, which already has a well-developed network of front >> organizations like a women’s wing and a students’ wing, is anxious not to be >> seen as a purely Muslim party but one which keeps the welfare of >> marginalized groups besides Muslims, such as the poor, backwards and SC/STs >> central to its proposed political face. * >> >> *The party’s concept paper makes scathing remarks about the state of the >> polity, especially the unequal distribution of new wealth in the new >> “happening” India. Underlining a social-democrat, religious and value-based >> “formula,” it calls for a “paradigm shift.” The party envisages strong >> participation by the middle-class and from individuals “having a record of >> flawless public service”, committed to “ideals” and “values” and the ability >> to break the connection “between political power and wealth creation.” * >> >> *Said a senior Jamaat member: “This won’t be Jamaat’s party but our >> members would be fully with it. People feel left out from the way political >> parties work these days. We want to keep welfare as the central element of >> it. We believe in public funding, in the way Kanshi Ram set out asking for >> one vote and one rupee, we can do that.” * >> >> *Members said that they will forge ties with “like-minded” parties and >> although they aren’t prepared to take on established political forces this >> time, they hope to make a statement by putting up a few candidates. * >> >> *There was a divide in the Jamaat over this political course of action >> but the party’s Majlis-e-Shoora made a decisive push for it. When contacted, >> Qasim Rasool Ilyas, a prominent member of the Jamaat-e-Islami, declined to >> comment. * >> >> *The Jamaat-e-Islami claims to have at least 29,000 workers, and more >> than 300,000 “well-wishers” across the country. But Jamaat watchers warn >> about the group being at odds with its own ideology. They say that for a >> group whose constitution states its objective as “iqaamat-e-din” or the >> single-minded pursuit of religion, forming a political party may confuse >> those who flock to the Jamaat as a centre for mainly Islamic revival or >> refreshing the Islamic way of life. * >> >> *The Jamaat, split with its most influential founder, Maulana Maududi, >> who was a staunch advocate of the creation of Pakistan, and later, a >> Jamaat-e-Islami-e-Hind and a separate one for Jammu and Kashmir was set up. >> * >> >> **However, its literature has had no real substitute for Maududi’s >> philosophy and old stereotypes remain. The parallels drawn with the RSS have >> often resulted in simultaneous bans, like in 1975, during the Emergency, >> when both the RSS and the Jamaat were banned. * >> >> **Observers like Irfan Waheed say that political opponents, especially >> the Hindutva parties, will invoke Jamaat-e-Islami’s past and present in >> Bangladesh and Pakistan. “After the partition, when Maulana Maududi was >> asked about the fate of the Muslims left in a Hindu majority India, he had >> said that he did not bother if the Hindus treat the Muslims of India worse >> than malechhas. He was only bothered about making Pakistan an Islamic state >> at any cost,” said Waheed.* >> >> *** The last two paras were dropped from the print edition report. >> >> * >> * >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "humanrights movement" group. >> To post to this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/humanrights-movement?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "humanrights movement" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/humanrights-movement?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "humanrights movement" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/humanrights-movement?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "humanrights movement" group. 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