Dear Lolly ,
         
  Thank you for your communication . This is an ongoing dialogue which is vital 
and necessary for the country  .I sat through the interviews of the General 
V.K.Singh Chief of Army Staff and the Chief of Air Staff Naik , noting that 
they painstakingly explained the priority role of the Armed Forces , echoing in 
an intelligent way what a Bench of the Supreme Court firmly told the Attorney 
General : " You cannot be at war with your own people ...........where is the 
development ........all that you are saying is the use of security forces 
......."

The two Chiefs explained the issues so well that Vishnu felt that it was no 
longer necessary for him to articulate the position when organizations urged 
him to come to New Delhi , as he said that his views were  so well known on the 
Armed Forces who are there to protect the sovereignty and security of the 
people  in all situations not to endanger their lives and livelihood . Even 
before the interview of the two Chiefs , Admiral Tahiliani had firmly taken the 
same position in a public meeting held in New Delhi .

     I have seen so much which I thought I would never see , the shaken 
citadels of financial centres functioning as the world's rapacious money 
lenders , that I have no doubt that we are on the verge of a breakthrough for 
human society .Though all attempts as of now are on the cards to derail that 
process including the extension of war to new regions and even the possibility 
of a nuclear attack .
             I am presently reading an inspiring book about the Sarhad Gandhi , 
the Frontier Gandhi , Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan , titled " A Man to Match His 
Moutains " and the famous movement which he led of his Red Shirts the Pathans 
for freedom where the only violence was perpetrated on them by colonial troops 
. Yet interestingly I heard many years ago a first person account of an officer 
who related how a famous regiment deployed by the British had refused to fire 
on this movement .In 1962 Amnesty declared him the Prisoner of the Year when he 
was jailed by the government of Pakistan . Following communal pogroms in India 
when he came to visit India as a State guest , he openly said  that you should 
know that these are strategies to divide the weaker sections of society .At 
such times one needs the inspiration of giants of our history .
  
    This was one of his messages :

" I have one great desire .

I want to rescue these gentle , brave patriotic people from the tyranny of the 
foreigners who have disgraced and dishonoured them .

I want to create for them a world of freedom , where they can live in peace , 
where they can laugh and be happy .

I want to kiss the ground where their ruined homes once stood , before they 
were destroyed by savage strangers.

I want to take a broom and sweep the alleys and the lanes , and I want to clean 
their houses with my own hands.

I want to wash the blood from their garments .

I want to show the world how beautiful they are , these people from the hills, 
and then I want to proclaim : SHOW ME , IF YOU CAN ANY GENTLER, MORE COURTEOUS 
, MORE CULTURED PEOPLE THAN THESE ".

As of now Lolly this is what I feel about our own Indigenous people being 
called all kinds of names and about the peasantry and agricultural workers 
among others ......I have walked for miles in my childhood and as an adult in 
the vast tribal heartlands of Maharashtra . My father as a Civil Servant  had a 
show down my years ago with a Minister for Forests who desired that the police 
should be deployed to clear the Adivasis from forest tracts . The Chief 
Minister , Yeshwatrao Chavan, a freedom fighter who had led an underground 
movement against British Rule , intervened to protect the tribal people and 
supported the note which said that the forest areas were a part of the 
community lands of the Tribal people , the question of dispossessing them did 
not arise the need was for special development projects in these areas 
respecting their knowledge of forestry .  I know of no people more cultured 
than these and completely  non -violent. I also believe that natural justice 
awaits those who destory their homes and habitats thereby destroying the 
ecological foundation of South Asia and India . which justice the Metropolitan 
cities will not escape as this in turn will affect their lives and their urban 
habitat .Unlimited greed is incompatible with human civilization and with life 
itself .

                     Niloufer Bhagwat
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Lollyramu Ramdas 
  To: [email protected] 
  Cc: NILOFER BHAGWAT ; vbhagwat 
  Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 8:17 AM
  Subject: Re: [humanrights-movement:2509] ONLY ONE VIEW POINT........... 
WENEEDA BROADER DIALOGUE ONALTERNATIVE STRATEGY FOR BALANCED AND 
JUSTECONOMICGROWTH AND PROSPERITY



  Dear Nilofer,

  What can one say - except that you are spot on in what you write and thanks 
for forwarding this excellent piece by Himanshu.

  For a start - these are the kinds of things that need to be read and pondered 
by a larger audience of socalled `people like us'.

  And ofcourse, sitting with people like Sagari and Madhoo here in Hyderabad - 
interacting with some amazing tribal leaders whom they work with and have built 
capacity in over the past two decades - further confirms the analysis that you 
make, that Himanshu offers, and even casual vistors like Arudhati point out so 
powerfully.

  The challenge is to make our arrogant leadership sit up and listen before we 
are overtaken by a blood bath.

  Love to you both

  Lolly

  On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Niloufer Bhagwat <[email protected]> wrote:

     Dear Colleagues ,
          
       For those who have not read this impassioned address 
    from Himanshu Kumar who like Dr.Binayak Sen has worked 
    in the region , I am forwarding the article .It is valid to understand 
    the ongoing  debate to which many have contributed,who have 
    knowledge of the region and have lived and worked  in the region .

    1. It is this very affected region which saw the brutal murder of an
     unusual trade  unionist Niyogi( wholly dedicated to unorganized workers )  
    organizing the unorganized in mines among others , to access to minimum
     wages and health facilities, all  perfectlyconstitutional activity , by 
hired agents 
    of business houses and coal mining mafia  by a hired mercenary, as per he 
facts 
    ofthe case presented by theProsecution after Police investigation  on 
behalf of the 
    State to the Sessions Court and all the way put to the Supreme Court by the 
CBI .

    2.Yet ,we have to understand that self   annihilation by continuous
     confrontation with  Para military/police officers of the State is not a 
    wise political strategy,even if state violence on a large scale has been 
    imposed . There  have to be alternative political strategies and linking
     up with other movements andcauses to ensure overwhelming political
     support for the Indigenouspeople whose lands and resources  are supposed 
    to be  protected not only by the Constitution of India , statutes in 
different 
    regions ,but also by the Resolution on the Indigenous territories and 
resources 
    passed by the United Nations , observance of which is mandatory .
        
    3.Political isolation , is what has been imposed on the affected regions,
    by creation of so called Tribal states to better exploit them , so as 
     to deprive the people in the so called "Tribal belt", the advantage
    of linking up with diverse political movements for renewal of the Indian
    economy and political democratic  space to prevent the strengthening
    of  the voices of those who seek development for all ,including in the 
tribal
    and peasant belt . It is necessary for the political leadership in these
    areas to break out from their isolation.

    4.In the name of carving out tribal states ,the better to indiscriminately
    expropriate mineral , land and water resources  there is  a predatory 
approach 
    of land seizure of community land ,allied with corrupt political  cabals 
signing
    MOUs , insteadof a well conceived plan for overall development which will 
have as its
    objective the removal of abject poverty with  a satisfactory human 
development
    index and a balanced ecological and industrial plan for the affected 
regions,
    making use of the local resources in a measured and balanced policy with
    support to agriculture ,forestry and industrial development using mineral
    resources sparingly so that they are not depleted and do not upset the
    ecological balance or poison the region . This objective requires among
    other strategies an overwhelming mass movement which tilts the
    balance in favour of development for all instead of MOUs only for
    a few.

     5.There is now a discussion all over the world  on what 
     "Malignant development and growth "  are all about ,
     which destroys vast areas ecologically  and many are questioning 
    the hitherto paradigm of development without balance and regulation 
    ignoring the needs of people who must always be at the core of any 
    developmentpolicy .For the first time economists, ecologists and scientists
     all over the world are expressing the view that the dominant system with
    its concept of growth without limits poses a danger to the planet
    earth our common home itself .

    6.In Punjab even as food grains were rotting in the open , it was
    liquor which was stored in the warehouses and godowns evidence
    of the priority of the ruling elite all over the country .

    7.It is necessary and urgent  to prevent the ongoing  Americanization of 
    Indian democracy and the financialization of the Indian economy , we have 
    seen that the US economy is in total collapse with Sovereign Debt Default
    facing the US , UK among other G 7 countries . 

    8.This is the time to raise the issue what kind of development , for who ,
     with what priorities, even while understanding that Industrialisation , 
    manufacture,and even rational exploitation of mineral wealth benefiting
     the regions where these resources are found are not antagonistic to
     enriching areas of agricultural prosperity , while simultaneously  
preserving
     and developing biodiversity , forestry with assistance from tribal 
populations 
    who have a rich store of knowledge about forestry and agriculture  which 
will
     otherwise be lost to  human civilization.

    9. The knowledge which exists in rural India and in the forest belts is
    a valuable storehouse though most in urban India do not value it .

    10.We need power , industrialization and  mineral resources but not 
    in a manner so as to inflict displacement and refugee status for millions 
    and decimation of once agriculturally rich regions and verdant forest cover 
.
    It is possible to harmonize industrialization with agriculture , forestry 
and
     fisheries by creating a stake for local communities in these projects.

    11. Every Indian needs a stake in India 's growth and development ,
    a stake which will only come with participation at the local
    and other levels of decision making for growth, linked with
    economic and social justice and democratic decision making
    in economic policy .Turning agriculture and forests into deserts
    is not the way to increase industrialization and manufacture .

    12.We have outstanding experts in our country on agriculture , land
    reforms , food security , sustainable development , industrialization,
    agro-industry and balanced mineral exploitation so as not to deplete
     reservesand harm the ecology ; we need to take their advise to construct
    a manifesto with the objective " Prosperity for All" .....beginning
    with those who are presently below the poverty line taking the
    assistance of those entrepreneurs who themselves are honest
    enough to understand , that islands of affluence and indecent
    wealth will be swamped by floods of poverty, disease  and 
    degradation .

    13. A distinction must be maintained between entrepreneurs
    who are constitutionalists who will not stoop to violence
    and desecration of community land and resources and those
    who openly support political violence and seizure of resources .

    14.This is the 21st Century , time to realize and propagate
     that human povertyand degradation are not god made,
     but man made and man has the intelligence to rationally 
    reorder the consumption and distribution of resources .
    What are people are immediately seeking  are 
    not planes and private yachts , just livelihood, basic
    housing ,reasonable food prices ,public health facilities
    and education to the utmost of one's ability .Is this too much
    of an aspiration , then what is the Constitution of India , a
    manifesto of our Freedom Movement all about ?????????

    15. On one aspect there can be no compromise and that
    is the financial control of the economy must at all times
    be in public hands which includes the Bank and financial
    institutions and that instruments of production and finance
     are subject to regulation in public interest . That just
    as there are no Princely houses democracy cannot
    co-exist with Corporate domination and  control of government .

    16. While being ready to struggle for justice let us widen 
    our  support base to those who believe that democracy
    must extend to economic and social policy and  to the justice
    system . It cannot be limited to the electoral process 
    financed by  special financial interests .Without political education 
    and transformation of our inner selves and an intelligence and 
     compassion  to convert even some of our worst enemies , the road
    will be even longer and littered with the lives of the innocent.

    As Brecht the famous writer said"Man Can Think "

     Indiscriminate violence by the State and by the victims can
    never be  the only strategies .Every  movement requires
    critical mass of support .

         With solidarity and Greetings ,

            Niloufer Bhagwat






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