Yes. *Straighten* adjusts the vertical geometry. *Optimize* not always. 

One more question related to the position:
If I select "align this image for position", does it mean that
- the selected image is centered (y,p,r = 0) before all calculations?
or
- the selected image position is random, as loaded and the position must be 
reset manually?
On Wednesday, September 16, 2020 at 6:19:01 AM UTC+2 GnomeNomad wrote:

> On 9/15/20 12:11 PM, Abrimaal wrote:
> > I always pressed "Align" after loading all images. Align also affects 
> > photometrics, so I try to make a panorama using the Editor only.
>
> Hmm, I presume you're talking about the button in the Assistant? You 
> could still use Align there, then reset the photometric optimizations in 
> the main Hugin window.
>
> > What step have I skipped?
> > 
> > 1. Mark the middle image "for position"
> > 2. Find control points + Celeste and vertical lines
> > 3. Fine tune all points
> > 4. Calculate and optimize
> >     a. positions from anchor
> >     b. positions and view
> >     c. everything
> > 
> > The image is still not straight.
> > I checked all vertical lines, removed the short and misplaced lines, 
> > added a few new.
> > I clicked "reset positions" and "optimize" again and the result is the 
> same.
>
> In the Fast Preview window, under the Move/Drag tab, there's a 
> Straighten button. Does that help?
>
> > What step of "Align" have I skipped that the vertical geometry is not 
> > optimized?
>
> Only thing I see missing from the above is to clean control points? Not 
> remove them, clean them. That always helps mine by removing ones that 
> seem to be way off or mismatched. I do that step after optimizing 
> positions from anchor (your 4.a). Or is that what you mean by "Fine tune 
> all points".
>
> And as someone else on the list asked, what projection are you using?
>
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