> it broke legacy applications whose XML parser will automatically fetch
the DTD from hibernate.org on startup,

Gasp, I see. They shouldn't really be fetching that file in the first
place, but I see how you don't want to break those consumers.

You might do it perhaps by announcing a transition date in a few months
(e.g. 2020/03/31), giving people time to upgrade. I cannot quantify the SEO
impact of this, but I suppose it's only getting worse. Tough choice :(

--Gunnar


Am Mo., 23. Nov. 2020 um 17:34 Uhr schrieb Yoann Rodiere <
yo...@hibernate.org>:

> Hey,
>
> Ah, this again.
>
> We've already looked into it. Last time we did, we got bug reports because
> it broke legacy applications whose XML parser will automatically fetch the
> DTD from hibernate.org on startup, and does not handle redirection or
> HTTPS (I don't know which exactly).
>
> We cannot do this redirection on a per-page basis (to exclude /dtd/)
> because we're using GitHub pages and the redirection setting is global.
>
> So right now, we could only do this by moving away from GitHub pages. And
> then we'd probably need some cache in front of our server.
>
> Long story short, nobody had time to look into this so far.
>
> Yoann Rodière
> Hibernate Team
> yo...@hibernate.org
>
>
> On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 at 17:23, Gunnar Morling <gun...@hibernate.org> wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I just noticed that visiting http://hibernate.org/ (i.e. not http*s*)
>> will
>> not automatically upgrade you to HTTPS, but leave you with that ugly
>> unsecure icon in the browser address bar. It's also what you get when
>> simply typing hibernate.org (i.e. 99% of users).
>>
>> As search engines tend to penalize non-HTTPS these days, I'd suggest to
>> look into automatically upgrading if possible.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> --Gunnar
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