On 14 September 2016 at 21:02, Steve Ebersole <st...@hibernate.org> wrote: > Also, why do you keep defining this in terms of Session, rather than > SessionFactory?
I mentioned that same doubt in my first email of this thread. I think I prefer Session as that's what people interact with most of the time, and it's a better choice if we opt to make this a nested transaction of the current one; if it's meant to be totally independent yes then we should probably consider the SF. > > > On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 3:01 PM Steve Ebersole <st...@hibernate.org> wrote: >> >> "Better" according to whom? ;) >> >> I personally very much dislike the kind of API explosion this kind of >> thing leads to. >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 2:59 PM Sanne Grinovero <sa...@hibernate.org> >> wrote: >>> >>> On 14 September 2016 at 20:32, Steve Ebersole <st...@hibernate.org> >>> wrote: >>> > The problem with "execute in isolation" here is that the "isolation" >>> > aspect >>> > refers to being isolated from any current transaction. It says nothing >>> > about whether that stuff-to-execute should itself be transacted. This >>> > is >>> > why, for example, you see IsolationDelegate accept a `transacted` >>> > boolean >>> > argument. >>> > >>> > How would you propose we pass such a flag in this case? Or are you >>> > proposing that this always start a (new) transaction? >>> >>> I had only the (new) transaction case in mind, but sure you could add >>> a `transacted` boolean parameter. >>> >>> Or we make it explicit with a better method name: >>> >>> s.executeInSubtransaction( session -> session.save(...) ); >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Sanne >>> >>> >>> > >>> > On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 1:39 PM Sanne Grinovero <sa...@hibernate.org> >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Today porting some benchmark code to Hibernate ORM 5.2 I had several >>> >> difficulties around the fact that the code now needs to be different >>> >> depending on transactions being container managed or not. >>> >> >>> >> My goal was to have a single benchmark test which I could compile once >>> >> and run in either JavaSE or CMT; with some help from Steve I figured >>> >> the necessary incantations out but ... it looks very unpractical. >>> >> >>> >> One way is to use an isolation delegate, which looks like this: >>> >> >>> >> final SessionImplementor session = (SessionImplementor) s; >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> session.getTransactionCoordinator().createIsolationDelegate().delegateWork( >>> >> new WorkExecutorVisitable() { >>> >> @ Override >>> >> public Object accept(WorkExecutor executor, Connection >>> >> connection) throws SQLException { >>> >> /// Some work with PreparedStatement on Connection.. >>> >> } >>> >> }, true ); >>> >> >>> >> This worked fine for some raw SQL used for the benchmark >>> >> initialization, but in another case I'd prefer to use the Session API >>> >> rather than dealing with PreparedStatements and native connections; >>> >> it looks like we don't have an equivalent "run code in isolation" for >>> >> the Session ? >>> >> >>> >> It would be great if I could just pass a lambda to a Session and have >>> >> this executed on a "child Session" in the scope of a "child >>> >> Transaction", or just start and commit a transaction if there isn't >>> >> one. >>> >> >>> >> s.executeInIsolation( session -> session.save(...) ); >>> >> >>> >> So I'd expect that details like how to begin the transaction, how it >>> >> should be committed (or rolled back in case of exceptions), how to >>> >> lookup a TransactionManager, and especially how to not leak resources >>> >> should be handled for the user. >>> >> >>> >> Obviously the inner Session instance is a different one than the >>> >> outer, so any data returned by this block should be considered >>> >> detached; maybe this limitation would be clearer if the method was >>> >> hosted on SessionFactory or StatelessSession instead? >>> >> Although it wouldn't necessarily have the limitations of a >>> >> StalessSession, and it would be nice to have the inner transaction >>> >> behave as a nested one when there's already one in the host Session. >>> >> >>> >> Looking forward for comments and improvement ideas :) >>> >> >>> >> Thanks, >>> >> Sanne >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> hibernate-dev mailing list >>> >> hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org >>> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev _______________________________________________ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev