Gail - thanks for the clarification. My post on the forum is now over a week 
old and bumped down to the second page of threads with no responses. I would 
appreciate any of the very gifted Hibernate developers visiting 
https://forum.hibernate.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1041360 
<https://forum.hibernate.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1041360> and helping decide if 
the software is working as intended and if there is some sort of workaround or 
perhaps future development that would enable my use case.

Thanks,
Wolfgang

> On Aug 27, 2015, at 11:03 , Gail Badner <gbad...@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> This mailing list is for hibernate developers to discuss Hibernate 
> development. Please use the user forum for help: https://forum.hibernate.org/ 
> <https://forum.hibernate.org/>.
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 9:38 PM, Wolfgang Wedemeyer <wolfg...@crypteron.com 
> <mailto:wolfg...@crypteron.com>> wrote:
> Greetings Hibernate Developers!
> 
> I'm working on an Integrator for Hibernate (background on Integrators: 
> https://docs.jboss.org/hibernate/orm/4.3/manual/en-US/html/ch14.html#objectstate-decl-security
>  
> <https://docs.jboss.org/hibernate/orm/4.3/manual/en-US/html/ch14.html#objectstate-decl-security>
>  
> <https://docs.jboss.org/hibernate/orm/4.3/manual/en-US/html/ch14.html#objectstate-decl-security
>  
> <https://docs.jboss.org/hibernate/orm/4.3/manual/en-US/html/ch14.html#objectstate-decl-security>>)
>  that by using listeners is supposed to take my data from how it's stored in 
> the DB and convert it into a different form for processing at runtime. This 
> works great when saving the data using .persist() however there's an odd 
> behavior involving transactions. It appears that since the Integrator does a 
> modification on the entity in question it gets marked as "dirty" and upon 
> committing this odd transaction, it bypasses my event listeners and writes 
> the value back in the wrong format! How can I write my Integrator to behave 
> co!
 rrectly in this case so that I can "undo" the conversion that has happened 
with my entities at runtime and not flush the wrong value out?
> 
> I have further details including quickstart tutorial code that uncovered the 
> issue for me posted on Stack Overflow: 
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31671824/hibernate-integrator-causes-flush-when-using-jpa-transactions-around-queries
>  
> <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31671824/hibernate-integrator-causes-flush-when-using-jpa-transactions-around-queries>
>  
> <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31671824/hibernate-integrator-causes-flush-when-using-jpa-transactions-around-queries
>  
> <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31671824/hibernate-integrator-causes-flush-when-using-jpa-transactions-around-queries>>
> but have yet to receive any responses. Feel free to reply there or send me a 
> response back to this email if you can be of assistance.
> 
> Thanks,
> Wolfgang
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