On 13 August 2015 at 15:50, Brett Meyer <brme...@redhat.com> wrote: > Sorry, late to this... > > My vote would be to get rid of SourceForge entirely. I can't stand their > ethics, services, or downtime... > > We use download.jboss.org for Artificer and haven't had any issues. Fully > supports SCP or SFTP -- I already have it scripted and would be more than > happy to help put it together for Hibernate. Plus, jboss.org/redhat.org now > include Splunk for parsing the server logs -- getting download metrics is > fairly straight-forward.
That sounds quite nice! But Hibernate has been at Sourceforce for a very long time though (ever?) and if we were to move platform / location each time something unpleasant happens that wouldn't be good for users; take the Google Code initiative for example.. not long ago it looked like everyone was going to move there, but it's dead already. But you're right: Sourceforge has crossed several lines - including the ethical one - so I'd not be against moving away, but if we all agree on moving I'd like to see how we can put some form of "redirect", or just maintain a long term notice, or simply keep uploading to both places for longer. If we move, I'd pick a new place which is going to be for sure stable in the long term; my preference would be to something under the DNS control of hibernate.org .. that might be download.jboss.org under the hoods, but I'd prefer to expose it in a way which is under control by the Hibernate group for the very long term. I'll ask the jboss.org team if that's an option. Sanne > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Steve Ebersole" <st...@hibernate.org> >> To: "Emmanuel Bernard" <emman...@hibernate.org>, "Gunnar Morling" >> <gun...@hibernate.org> >> Cc: "Hibernate Dev" <hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org> >> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 2:37:29 PM >> Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] Hosting of binaries >> >> FWIW the SourceForge upload UI seems to be restored. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 2:14 AM Emmanuel Bernard <emman...@hibernate.org> >> wrote: >> >> > For info, SourceForge hopes to restore ssh access (the last service they >> > will activate) August 3rd. >> > >> > http://sourceforge.net/blog/sourceforge-infrastructure-and-service-restoration-update-for-728/ >> > >> > > On 28 Jul 2015, at 10:27, Gunnar Morling <gun...@hibernate.org> wrote: >> > > >> > > Your proposed order seems good. I'd exclude GitHub if it's not >> > scriptable (UI only) as this will hinder releases from the CI server. >> > > >> > > 2015-07-28 9:39 GMT+02:00 Emmanuel Bernard <emman...@hibernate.org >> > <mailto:emman...@hibernate.org>>: >> > > As some of you know Sourceforge has had a severe distributed file system >> > corruption and they have been working on it for a full week. You can read >> > their blog for regular updates http://sourceforge.net/blog/ < >> > http://sourceforge.net/blog/> >> > > The concrete issue for us is that we cannot upload new files: Hibernate >> > Validator and Hibernate ORM are now pending a release. >> > > >> > > There are 4 options on the table >> > > >> > > Be patient:: >> > > SourceForge will eventually reopen upload, I imagine it might take form >> > one to two weeks. >> > > Their binary hosting support is relatively correct and all of our >> > download statistics are there. >> > > >> > > Move to download.jboss.org <http://download.jboss.org/>:: >> > > JBoss has a facility to host binaries. WildFly amongst other uses it. We >> > can ask them if they are happy with it. >> > > It is not connected to the rest of the forum/CMS infra, it’s a simple >> > file upload AFAIK so easily scriptable. >> > > They also offer statistics but how needs to be investigated. >> > > >> > > Move to GitHub:: >> > > GitHub has a binary upload facility. I could only find a web based >> > approach (can it be done programmatically?). >> > > They don’t seem to have any statistics service, which is a big negative >> > point. >> > > Also I don’t trust GitHub anymore for their binary hosting. They had a >> > version in the past that they scrapped with barely no notice. I’m not >> > exactly willing to give them my trust again. >> > > >> > > Move to BinTray:: >> > > Binary hosting is their life and blood. People seem happy with them. It >> > seems however that the statistics require a paying package instead of the >> > free oss tier. >> > > >> > > I think we should try in the following order: >> > > >> > > 1. Be patient with Sourceforge (but for how long?) >> > > 2. go for download.jboss.org <http://download.jboss.org/> and before >> > that ask around for the process and stability of the infrastructure >> > > 3. explore Bintray >> > > 4. 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