On 28 Jan 2014, at 13:03, Sanne Grinovero <sa...@hibernate.org> wrote:

> I'd then remove Log4J from our test dependencies to primarily rely on
> assertions only;

Why would you do that? I would expect whatever solution we come up with to
just delegate to the underlying logger. 

> or for debugging purposes to have it forwards
> messages to System.out too - probably enabled by some environment
> option - would be good enough.

We have the logging system configurable already. Why complicating things.
All we would be after is a way to verify that a given log message gets called.
Everything else should behave as before.

—Hardy




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