On May 10, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Emmanuel Bernard wrote:

> Also how do you come to the conclusion that hibernate ORM + Search take twice 
> as much memory? I can't seem to follow your reasoning based on the pics you 
> have sent.
> As Sanne point out, Configuration, JavaReflectionManager, 
> FullTextIndexEventListener exist in both versions. It's unclear to me why 
> they don't show up.

To take the same line as Sanne and Emmanuel, I don't think that these 
screenshot in itself are very helpful yet. It would be important to understand 
the footprint better and
follow the references to see what exactly is going on.

> The size of SerializableValidatorFactory could indeed be due to what Scott 
> was pointing to as Hibernate Validator was caching too aggressively.

Maybe. The symptoms look similar.It would be useful to get more information 
about the application in general, e.g. what type (ear/war), number of 
persistence units, etc
Also is this screenshot taken right after startup? Or after some load was 
created? To test the Validator theory you can try to replace the Hibernate 
Validator version 
in the modules/org/hibernate/validator/main of your AS installation with the 
latest 4.3 release - 4.3.0.Final 
https://repository.jboss.org/nexus/index.html#nexus-search;quick~hibernate-validator

--Hardy


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