why ship the dialect with your jdbc driver is not a better option?

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Strong Liu <st...@hibernate.org>
http://hibernate.org
http://github.com/stliu

On Aug 5, 2011, at 10:30 AM, 에센 사그노브 wrote:

> Hello Liu,
> 
> Thank you very much for your attention to this issue. We have reviewed all 
> the thread you mentioned and some additional mentioned within those threads.
> 
> As a result we have performed unit tests for Hibernate + CUBRID DB. There 
> were 64 tests, 16 of which were related to data types. All 64 tests were 
> successfully passes.
> 
> Regarding the way to add CUBRID support to Hibernate, we have decided to go 
> with the 3rd option, i.e. integrate CUBRIDDialect directly into Hibernate 
> source code. As a CUBRID Project Manager I am taking the responsibility to 
> ensure the stability/compatibility of the code and to maintain it as both 
> Hibernate and CUBRID Database evolve. In fact, I am the lead of CUBRID 
> packages for PHP at PECL, Ruby at RubyGems, Python at PYPI, JDBC at Clojars, 
> too. With this I would like to ensure you that the CUBRIDDialect will be 
> maintained continuously. It's not going to be a one-time commit. Like I said 
> in my previous mail, our company uses Hibernate extensively at 100+ web 
> services together with CUBRID. More than that there is a huge user base of 
> Hibernate in Korea where CUBRID is a popular relational database.
> 
> If there is anything else we should look at before creating JIRA issue, 
> please let me know. We will address all the issues. We are ready to proceed 
> with creating a JIRA issue and committing the code.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Esen Sagynov.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Strong Liu"<st...@hibernate.org> 
> To: "에센 사그노브"<esen.sagy...@nhn.com>
> Cc: hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org
> Sent: 11-07-15(금) 01:20:25
> Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] CUBRID Database Dialect for Hibernate
> 
> here are some related topics:
> 
> http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/hibernate-dev/2010-April/005094.html
> http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/hibernate-dev/2010-April/005101.html
> http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/hibernate-dev/2010-April/005102.html
> http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/hibernate-dev/2008-September/003323.html
> 
> 
> we (hibernate team) would suggest DB vendors maintain the hibernate dialect 
> themselves, like delivery the dialect class within jdbc driver.
> there are some reasons that we recommended this way:
> 1. resources, we have limited developer resources and testing environment 
> resource, for example, i don't think we have qa resources to maintain a 
> CURBID instance for testing/CI.
> 2. since Dialect is the main contract between hibernate and DB, so, if DB has 
> any new release, it can update the dialect as well, and no need to wait for 
> hibernate release.
> 
> meanwhile, we would like to help db vendors to set up a hibernate ci 
> environment to make sure the dialect/hibernate works well on the DB.
> 
> and thanks for working on this dialect :D
> 
> -----------
> Strong Liu <st...@hibernate.org>
> http://hibernate.org
> http://github.com/stliu
> 
> On Jul 14, 2011, at 3:12 PM, 에센 사그노브 wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> I am the CUBRID open source RDBMS Project Manager. Our parent company NHN 
>> has extensively been using Hibernate in its services together with CUBRID 
>> Database Server.
>> Here I would like to attach the CUBRIDDialect.java class file which supports 
>> CUBRID version 8.3.0 and higher (8.3.0, 8.3.1, and current stable 8.4.0) 
>> that we want to submit to Hibernate project.
>> If I should create an issue in JIRA, please let me know which project is the 
>> most appropriate.
>> Regards,
>> Esen Sagynov.
>> CUBRID Project Manager.
>> http://www.cubrid.org
>> http://twitter.com/cubrid
>> http://facebook.com/cubrid
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> 
> 

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