ok, so do you have any areas i should avoid, or alternately, easy areas as a beginner i should filter jira to look for bugs?
i did speak up regarding unit tests :) no one spoke back, but that's ok , i understand folks won't always be here to answer every question, didn't stop me from asking though. On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Max Rydahl Andersen < max.ander...@redhat.com> wrote: > > > Elhanan Maayan wrote: > >> >> "looking at the code which has a problem and fix it" sounds so simple :), >> it did sound simple, until i got to working on a bug with sql generation and >> had huge amount of time figuring out what went wrong, even now, after i >> found the bug, i don't know if fixing it requires major refactoring or is it >> something simpler then i'm missing. >> >> Your problem is probably not the first thing I would try and grasp in > Hibernate - it's probably the most complex part of hibernate; but don't let > that scare you. > >> >> yes, i know about the unitests, they scared me at first, when i first run >> them after the initial download and saw failures, but i guess i didn't read >> the results correctly because the hibernate-core project test went ok. >> >> Speak up if you got questions about them :) > > /max > >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Max Rydahl Andersen < >> max.ander...@redhat.com <mailto:max.ander...@redhat.com>> wrote: >> >> >> i never thought hibernate was simple, my problem is that i >> don't see how anyone outside jboss personal can actually >> create fixes (patches or commits) without internal overview of >> hibernate. and jumping head first is actually what a new >> developer in jboss would need to do, even if he did had prior >> usage of hibernate. so either there are white papers kept in >> jboss for their use only , or the information is pass down >> orally by a senior developer. >> >> There are no internal secret jboss documents - all the information >> is public. Many people are creating patches to hibernate in >> various areas by simply reading the code that is having a problem >> and fix it - of course for more detailed hardcore bugs more info >> is needed, but no written documentation would help you there - you >> would still need to look at the code to learn it. >> >> btw. I did not work for JBoss when I started contribute to >> Hibernate, and there are non-JBoss committers today too - the >> right to commit is earned by showing skill and drive; not by >> getting hired. >> >> >> to give an example, we have a developer with a 7 year >> experience in java j2ee, working on an undocumented homegrown >> framework with no internal overview documentation, and only >> oral info passed from previous developer, and that's not >> nearly enough as fixes usually break something else. >> >> Look at the unittests, if you break them you know you messed up - >> if they pass the chance of you having messed up is less ;) >> >> /max >> >> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Chris Bredesen >> <cbrede...@redhat.com <mailto:cbrede...@redhat.com> >> <mailto:cbrede...@redhat.com <mailto:cbrede...@redhat.com>>> >> wrote: >> >> Some observations on this thread: >> >> 1. You do not need m2eclipse. /trunk and /Branch_3_3 both use >> Maven 2 and will build straight away with "mvn compile". >> >> 2. You can generate Eclipse or IDEA project files from the >> command >> line in the standard Maven way (mvn eclipse:eclipse or mvn >> idea:idea) and then import the projects. I understand that >> IDEA >> reads Maven metadata natively but I cannot speak to that. >> >> 3. Only committers are allowed to ... commit. This is what the >> svn.jboss.org <http://svn.jboss.org/> <http://svn.jboss.org/> >> >> server is for. >> anonsvn.jboss.org <http://anonsvn.jboss.org/> >> <http://anonsvn.jboss.org/> is a replica with >> >> read-only privileges. Use this for now. You are free to open >> JIRA tickets and attach patch files which will be reviewed by >> Hibernate committers and possibly committed in a future >> release. >> >> 4. Yes, Hibernate is complicated. It is not a trivial >> project to >> jump into head-first. So please understand that there are many >> ways to contribute: >> >> * Helping on the forums >> * Hanging around in IRC to participate/answer questions >> * Improving the wiki >> * Filing JIRA issues for bugs or attaching test cases that are >> required >> >> Happy Hibernating, >> >> Chris >> >> joy deep wrote: >> >> Thanks soo much , I was by the side of the ocean no >> idea about >> depth . >> Are only JBoss people allowed to make changes !!! >> >> >> Thanks and Regards >> Joydeep Bhattacharjee >> >> >> --- On *Tue, 14/4/09, Elhanan Maayan >> /<elh.mailg...@gmail.com <mailto:elh.mailg...@gmail.com> >> <mailto:elh.mailg...@gmail.com >> <mailto:elh.mailg...@gmail.com>>>/* wrote: >> >> >> From: Elhanan Maayan <elh.mailg...@gmail.com >> <mailto:elh.mailg...@gmail.com> >> <mailto:elh.mailg...@gmail.com <mailto:elh.mailg...@gmail.com>>> >> >> Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] want to join hibernate >> development >> community >> To: "joy deep" <bha_...@yahoo.co.in >> <mailto:bha_...@yahoo.co.in> >> <mailto:bha_...@yahoo.co.in <mailto:bha_...@yahoo.co.in>>> >> >> >> Cc: "Peter Harrison" >> <peter.harri...@methodmaker.co.nz >> <mailto:peter.harri...@methodmaker.co.nz> >> <mailto:peter.harri...@methodmaker.co.nz >> <mailto:peter.harri...@methodmaker.co.nz>>>, >> >> hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org >> <mailto:hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org> >> <mailto:hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org >> <mailto:hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org>> >> >> Date: Tuesday, 14 April, 2009, 6:38 PM >> >> i've started a small blog >> http://osventure.wordpress.com/ >> about my >> experiences with open source, documenting my attempts. >> please note that you will need m2eclipse plugin to >> download the >> code, as the svn repo is not in eclipse project. >> you will then need to change your .settings.xml file for >> maven in >> ~/m2 direcotry for jboss plugins >> also after you downloaded the code you will >> encounter >> huge amount of >> compiler errors you will need to the following: >> 1. run mvn install on the pom parent - to >> generate some >> antlr files >> that were not generated during the initial load >> 2. change hibernate-core project compiler settings to : >> generated .class file compatibility to 1.4, >> source >> compatibility : 1.4 >> 3. on hibernate-common-annotations project change >> the compiler >> error/warnings , turn the forbidden reference >> (access rules) to >> warning instead of error. >> good luck getting your feet, personally i feel >> somewhat >> drowning >> when i'm trying to figure out this bug : >> http://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/hibernate/browse/HHH-3856 >> personally i have no idea how anyone outside >> jboss can >> even begin to >> start modify the code without some white papers or >> explanation on >> the internal structure of hibernate. >> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:05 AM, joy deep >> <bha_...@yahoo.co.in <mailto:bha_...@yahoo.co.in> >> <mailto:bha_...@yahoo.co.in <mailto:bha_...@yahoo.co.in>> >> >> </mc/compose?to=bha_...@yahoo.co.in <mailto:bha_...@yahoo.co.in> >> <mailto:bha_...@yahoo.co.in <mailto:bha_...@yahoo.co.in>>>> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> Is there any SVN repository from where I can >> download the >> source codes, and set up my project in eclipse >> .Can you >> also >> give the Bugzilla link for hibernate.I want to >> get my >> feet wet >> with the code soon . Thanks for replying. >> >> >> Thanks and Regards >> Joydeep Bhattacharjee >> >> >> --- On *Tue, 14/4/09, Peter Harrison >> /<peter.harri...@methodmaker.co.nz >> <mailto:peter.harri...@methodmaker.co.nz> >> <mailto:peter.harri...@methodmaker.co.nz >> <mailto:peter.harri...@methodmaker.co.nz>> >> >> </mc/compose?to=peter.harri...@methodmaker.co.nz >> <mailto:peter.harri...@methodmaker.co.nz> >> <mailto:peter.harri...@methodmaker.co.nz >> <mailto:peter.harri...@methodmaker.co.nz>>>>/* wrote: >> >> >> From: Peter Harrison >> <peter.harri...@methodmaker.co.nz >> <mailto:peter.harri...@methodmaker.co.nz> >> <mailto:peter.harri...@methodmaker.co.nz >> <mailto:peter.harri...@methodmaker.co.nz>> >> >> </mc/compose?to=peter.harri...@methodmaker.co.nz >> <mailto:peter.harri...@methodmaker.co.nz> >> <mailto:peter.harri...@methodmaker.co.nz >> <mailto:peter.harri...@methodmaker.co.nz>>>> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] want to join >> hibernate >> development community >> To: bha_...@yahoo.co.in >> <mailto:bha_...@yahoo.co.in> >> <mailto:bha_...@yahoo.co.in <mailto:bha_...@yahoo.co.in>> >> </mc/compose?to=bha_...@yahoo.co.in >> <mailto:bha_...@yahoo.co.in> <mailto:bha_...@yahoo.co.in >> >> <mailto:bha_...@yahoo.co.in>>> >> >> >> Date: Tuesday, 14 April, 2009, 5:02 AM >> >> The ideal way to get involved is to download the >> source and >> get familiar with it first - if you have not >> already. I am >> here because I made some modifications to >> hibernate >> for my >> own project and want to contribute back. The >> best >> way to >> start is to look at existing bug reports, >> write a >> patch or >> two and attach them to the ticket. Of >> course, I'm in a >> similar boat as you, in that I'm not an active >> committer >> right now. I'm personally looking at issues >> which >> affect me >> - aka I don't want to be committing code for >> things >> that I >> am not having practical use for. >> >> 2009/4/12 <bha_...@yahoo.co.in >> <mailto:bha_...@yahoo.co.in> >> <mailto:bha_...@yahoo.co.in <mailto:bha_...@yahoo.co.in>> >> >> <http://mc/compose?to=bha_...@yahoo.co.in>> >> >> >> Hi All, >> >> I am new to hibernate development >> community though >> I have been using the the product for >> some time >> now , I >> would like to be a part of this wonderful >> product how >> can I get on with it . >> Any help in this regard will be highly >> appreciated. >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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