But you never see these classes unless you implement the spec. And if you implement the spec, I don't care how hard it is for you.

ValidatorBuilder is an essential feature used by JPA and JSF so that's a no go.

On  Jan 16, 2009, at 09:09, Hardy Ferentschik wrote:

On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:24:34 +0100, Emmanuel Bernard <emman...@hibernate.org > wrote:

I am still not
convinced that the whole API fis not overcomplicated

Which step is too complicated and need simplification. Any example?

I just think there are too many levels of indirection. When I look at the example on how to get to a ValidatorFactory all seems good, but I get regularly lost when I start browsing the code and click through classes like:

- ValidationProviderResolver
- GenericBuilderFactory
- SpecializedBuilderFactory
- ValidatorFactoryBuilder
- BootstrapState
- ValidatorFactory
- ValidatorBuilder

There seem to be two driving forces behind these interfaces/classes - type safety and covering all possible scenarios. Personally, I think a cast can sometimes be easier to understand than
generics and maybe not all bases have to be covered.

One simplification could be the removal of ValidatorBuilder.

--Hardy




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