Next major release of Hibernate will be much more modularized than earlier.

It's in trunk, so not something that is going to show up in 3.2.x.

-max

hibernate-jmx is actually news to me - I didn't realize there was such a module.

Is it easy for someone with an existing app to plop this hibernate-jmx module (.jar?) in their app deployment and have it "just work"?

I'm curious if this is going to be shipped with, say, JBossAS, so its already available to people without downloading it separately.

I'll see if I can read up some more on that module.

Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
John, follow Steve's lead and put it in hibernate-jmx module.
These statistics have been hidden all too long for users of Hibernate IMO.
This setting will make it available.
IMO it is not a security issue since its not enabled by default and similar to users of AS can go enable jmx console without a password or the standard password. Wether we have a simple setting for this or users put mutations of different ways of
setting up JMX doesn't make much of a difference does it ?
 /max

But even under JSE it's
trivial to publish an MBean in a few lines of Java code as well:

Well, that's my whole point in this exercise. We shouldn't require people to introduce this code (albeit trivial) in their app just so it can be monitored (after all, how many app developers actually take it upon themselves to write code whose sole purpose is monitoring?). And once you put it in, you probably will want additional code to introduce a way to disable it if you need to - see Emmanuel's point about security. It should be configurable directly from the framework itself.

Let's instead burn some calories in Hibernate 3.3 getting natural ID
key caching working properly, okay? :-)

I've already burned the calories myself (it is working with the patch I attached to the JIRA). And since I don't work on other parts of Hibernate, I'm not diverting resources from it. But, if this work isn't deemed contributable or highly useful, let me know and I'll stop working on it.
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