Emmanuel Bernard wrote:

Lost of people are bitten by the slf4j implementation drop issue: unless you drop an slf4j impl, you get nasty CNFE. I wonder if we could make that easier for users.

I had a chat with a former coworker last night who was starting with Hibernate and had downloaded 3.3. I was a bit surprised that we don't package/ship any of the SLF4J implementations. It's one thing to have to explicitly pick one, but it's another thing to have to go download something from a third party before Hibernate will even work (unless Log4J is unique in this respect...).

Can this be changed?

-CB
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