Hi Sean,

Thank you for starting the discussion.

I think branch-2.10, branch-3.1, branch-3.2, branch-3.3, and trunk
(3.4.x) are actively maintained.

The next releases will be:
- 3.4.0
- 3.3.1 (Thanks, Wei-Chiu!)
- 3.2.3
- 3.1.5
- 2.10.2

> Are there folks willing to go through being release managers to get more of 
> these release lines on a steady cadence?

Now I'm interested in becoming a release manager of 3.1.5.

> If I were to take up maintenance release for one of them which should it be?

3.2.3 or 2.10.2 seems to be a good choice.

> Should we declare to our downstream users that some of these lines aren’t 
> going to get more releases?

Now I think we don't need to declare that. I believe 3.3.1, 3.2.3,
3.1.5, and 2.10.2 will be released in the near future.
There are some earlier discussions of 3.1.x EoL, so 3.1.5 may be a
final release of the 3.1.x release line.

> Is there downstream facing documentation somewhere that I missed for setting 
> expectations about our release cadence and actively maintained branches?

As you commented, the confluence wiki pages for Hadoop releases were
out of date. Updated [1].

> Do we have a backlog of work written up that could make the release process 
> easier for our release managers?

The release process is documented and maintained:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/HADOOP2/HowToRelease
Also, there are some backlogs [1], [2].

[1]: 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/HADOOP/Hadoop+Active+Release+Lines
[2]: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/HADOOP/Roadmap

Thanks,
Akira

On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 7:12 AM Sean Busbey <sbus...@apple.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>
> Hi folks!
>
> Which release lines do we as a community still consider actively maintained?
>
> I found an earlier discussion[1] where we had consensus to consider branches 
> that don’t get maintenance releases on a regular basis end-of-life for 
> practical purposes. The result of that discussion was written up in our wiki 
> docs in the “EOL Release Branches” page, summarized here
>
> >  If no volunteer to do a maintenance release in a short to mid-term (like 3 
> > months to 1 or 1.5 year).
>
> Looking at release lines that are still on our download page[3]:
>
> * Hadoop 2.10.z - last release 8 months ago
> * Hadoop 3.1.z - last release 9.5 months ago
> * Hadoop 3.2.z - last release 4.5 months ago
> * Hadoop 3.3.z - last release 10 months ago
>
> And then trunk holds 3.4 which hasn’t had a release since the branch-3.3 fork 
> ~14 months ago.
>
> I can see that Wei-Chiu has been actively working on getting the 3.3.1 
> release out[4] (thanks Wei-Chiu!) but I do not see anything similar for the 
> other release lines.
>
> We also have pages on the wiki for our project roadmap of release[5], but it 
> seems out of date since it lists in progress releases that have happened or 
> branches we have announced as end of life, i.e. 2.8.
>
> We also have a group of pages (sorry, I’m not sure what the confluence jargon 
> is for this) for “hadoop active release lines”[6] but this list has 2.8, 2.9, 
> 3.0, 3.1, and 3.3. So several declared end of life lines and no 2.10 or 3.2 
> despite those being our release lines with the most recent releases.
>
> Are there folks willing to go through being release managers to get more of 
> these release lines on a steady cadence?
>
> If I were to take up maintenance release for one of them which should it be?
>
> Should we declare to our downstream users that some of these lines aren’t 
> going to get more releases?
>
> Is there downstream facing documentation somewhere that I missed for setting 
> expectations about our release cadence and actively maintained branches?
>
> Do we have a backlog of work written up that could make the release process 
> easier for our release managers?
>
>
> [1]: https://s.apache.org/7c8jt
> [2]: https://s.apache.org/4no96
> [3]: https://hadoop.apache.org/releases.html
> [4]: https://s.apache.org/1bvwe
> [5]: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/HADOOP/Roadmap
> [6]: 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/HADOOP/Hadoop+Active+Release+Lines
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