Correction: 3/12 or 3/13, as in March 12 or 13th. -C

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 3:59 PM, Chris Douglas <cdoug...@apache.org> wrote:
> Looking at the poll [1], it looks like 12/12 or 12/13 would be the
> best day to do this. If you haven't posted your availability and would
> like to participate, please fill this out soon.
>
> We'll work on some common space in the bay area, but we'll also open a
> channel for folks who can't attend in-person. -C
>
> [1]: https://doodle.com/poll/r22znitzae9apfbf
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Chris Douglas <cdoug...@apache.org> wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 5:47 PM, 郑锴(铁杰) <zhengkai...@alibaba-inc.com> wrote:
>>>>>I'm looking at you, TestDFSStripedOutputStreamWithFailure ...
>>> AFAIK and IMO, it's pretty hard to get all the test cases stably running
>>> given the limitation of MiniDFSCluster, and if we'd agree on that, we could
>>> remove these cases as unit tests and cover them in integration tests instead
>>> using a true cluster, like based on k8s infra.
>>
>> Since its inception, the Mini*Clusters have made it much easier to
>> write unit tests (good!), but these tests take more time and resources
>> than fine-grained tests (unfortunate) and they're often unreliable
>> (bad). As we see in issues like HDFS-12711, the resource problem seems
>> to harm reliability across the entire suite of tests (dire).
>>
>> Running integration tests with our CI is helpful, but perhaps we
>> should separate the Mini*Cluster tests and/or press contributors to
>> write lighter unit tests for new functionality. -C
>>
>>> We're lacking basic facility
>>> infra env and tools to get most of the complicated functionalities well
>>> tested and covered, so let's avoid too much complicated tests. Fixing of
>>> such tests should definitely help and be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Kai
>>>
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>>> 发件人:Chris Douglas <cdoug...@apache.org>
>>> 发送时间:2018年2月8日(星期四) 08:39
>>> 收件人:Hdfs-dev <hdfs-dev@hadoop.apache.org>
>>> 主 题:Re: [DISCUSS] Meetup for HDFS tests and build infra
>>>
>>> Created a poll [1] to inform scheduling. -C
>>>
>>> [1]: https://doodle.com/poll/r22znitzae9apfbf
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 3:09 PM, Chris Douglas <cdoug...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> The HDFS build is not healthy. Many of the unit tests aren't actually
>>>> run in Jenkins due to resource exhaustion, haven't been updated since
>>>> build/test/data was the test temp dir, or are chronically unstable
>>>> (I'm looking at you, TestDFSStripedOutputStreamWithFailure). The
>>>> situation has deteriorated slowly, but we can't confidently merge
>>>> patches, let alone significant features, when our CI infra is in this
>>>> state.
>>>>
>>>> How would folks feel about a half to full-day meetup to work through
>>>> patches improving this, specifically? We can improve tests,
>>>> troubleshoot the build, and rev/commit existing patches. It would
>>>> require some preparation, so the simultaneous attention is productive
>>>> and not a coordination bottleneck. I started a wiki page for this [1],
>>>> please add to it.
>>>>
>>>> If enough people can make time for this, say in 2-3 weeks, the project
>>>> would certainly benefit. -C
>>>>
>>>> [1]: https://s.apache.org/ng3C
>>>
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