I still have a list of pending API/protocol cleanup in YARN that need to be in before we even attempt supporting compatibility further down the road. There's no way we can support wire compatibility with the APIs in the state that they are in now. So, +1 for a beta sometime in March.
There are some early adopters, I am particularly speaking of YARN, who have been instrumental in helping ironing out the alpha software, some with very large clusters and end-user base. These users will continue to be affected with these API/protocol changes, but the alpha tag was clearly meant to clarify this. I think we should graciously send out a note (on general@) about an impending beta from where everyone can except a high degree of compatibility. Just caught up with the discussion on the referred JIRAs. I can clearly see how a single release with an umbrella alpha/beta tag is causing tensions *only* because we have a single project and product. More reinforcement for my proclivity towards separate releases and by extension towards the projects' split. Thanks, +Vinod On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Arun C Murthy <a...@hortonworks.com> wrote: > Thanks Suresh. Adding back other *-dev lists. > > On Jan 29, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Suresh Srinivas wrote: > > > +1 for a release with all the changes that are committed. That way it > > carries all the important bug fixes. > > > > > > So, rather than debate more, I had a brief chat with Suresh and Todd. > Todd > >> suggested calling the next release as hadoop-2.1.0-alpha to indicate the > >> incompatibility a little better. This makes sense to me, as long as we > are > >> clear that we won't make any further *feature* releases in hadoop-2.0.x > >> series (obviously we might be forced to do security/bug-fix release). > >> > > > > > > We have been incorrectly using point releases to introduce features. > Given > > there are many features in this release, calling it 2.1.0 instead of > 2.0.3 > > makes sense. As you said, I am okay with the proposed plan as long as we > do > > not lapse back to introducing new features in point releases meant for > > critical bugs. > > > -- +Vinod Hortonworks Inc. http://hortonworks.com/
