On 10/16/10 10:48 AM, Ben Franksen wrote:
Don Stewart wrote:
It is open source, and was born open source. It is the product of
research.

How can a language be open source, or rather, how can it *not* be open
source? The point of a (programming) language is that it has a published
('open') definition. Nothing prevents anyone from creating a proprietary
compiler or interpreter for Haskell, AFAIK.

Miranda[TM] is/was a proprietary language, quite definitively so. If nothing else, this should be apparent by the fact that every reference to it in research papers of the era (a) included the TM sigil, and (b) had footnotes indicating who the IP holders are. That was before my time, but I was under the impression that Haskell was open from the beginning ---by express intention--- in order to enable work on lazy functional languages without being encumbered by Miranda[TM]'s closed nature.

For that matter, until rather recently Java was very much a closed language defined by the runtime system provided by Sun Microsystems and not defined by the sequence of characters accepted by that system, nor by the behavior of the system when it accepts them. Sun even went through some trouble to try to shut out competitive development of runtime systems such as SoyLatte, IcedTea, and the like.

Even the venerable C language has a long history of companies making proprietary extensions to the language in order to require you to buy their compiler, and they would most certainly pursue legal action if someone else copied the features. This is why GCC is as big a coup for the free/open-source movement as Linux is--- long before GCC changed its name and focus to being a compiler collection.

The languages which are open-source are in close correspondence with the languages which have a free/open-source implementation. There are a lot of them, including the vast majority of recent languages. But don't be seduced into thinking that a language is a predicate on acceptable strings, a transducer from those strings into computer behaviors, or that such predicates and transducers are public domain.

--
Live well,
~wren
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