Hi,

>>>> It was very simple for me. Maybe I was a lucky "sailor in the first 
>>>> voyage"?
>>> No, I have the same experience: I just run the mingw installer, the
>>> msys installer, get gd, zlib, openssl from gnuwin32 and run the
>>> installers, get eclipse and git and run the installers, get postgresql
>>> and apache and run the installers.
>>> Using dirs like c:\opt, c:\usr and c:\var is hard to see the
>>> differences between XP/msys, OSX and Linux environment.
>> I think it would be useful for many users if you could 
>> create a short HOWTO for official MinGW 4.4.0 installation.
> 
> The above Lorenzo text is such HOWTO.

Sorry, but it isn't. I've installed official 4.4.0 
mingw a few month ago (even commented the experience 
here), and it was everything but not simple, obvious, 
or quick, or anything what Lorenzo described in one 
sentence.

> I use MS-Windows very seldom so it's possible that sth has changed in last
> years but last time I was using MinGW and MSys in real MS-Windows environment
> the whole installation process was reduced to two things:
>   1. run installers
>   2. confirm defaults

It doesn't work like that for 4.4.0 unfortunately.

First I had to find the documentation which described the 
process, then you have to pick separate binary packages from 
the long list of available sf.net downloads, all of them available 
in multiple versions (not matching the documentation of course), 
then you download these files (hopefully the right ones), each 
of them is packed using different tool (gzip, bzip2, lzma), 
then you unpack them, and some of the packages went into their 
own subdir, some of them don't, so in a final pass you have to 
manually assemble the dev tree using some intuition.

That experience is the reason why we still don't support 
QT 4.6 in Harbour.

> Anyhow recently when my friend asked me about installing
> Harbour in his laptop I simply downloaded Harbour 2.0.0 windows binaries
> with integrated MinGW and I have to say it was real pleasure to install
> everything in few clicks and have working Harbour "out of the box" just
> like after installing RPMs or DEBs in Linux systems.
> My congratulations to you for this package. Very very good job.
> It should perfectly resolve the problems which novice users usually
> had: "how to start using Harbour?"

Thank you very much. That was the goal, and also the 
goal of "INSTALL" doc, hbmk2 and getting rid of old dual 
make-system. It good to hear that now it's usable for 
human beings :)

Brgds,
Viktor

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